Fwd: Re: [IRPCoalition] [bestbits] Reminder: please endorse IGF proposal today if you agree

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Wed May 22 00:11:25 EDT 2013






Dear All

As discussed elsewhere, I continue to be unclear whether this is a 
proposal for urgent and high priority discussion of a particular subject 
- gov role in global IG, or a proposal for testing a process for the IGF 
to produce more concrete outcomes.... The response to my queries on this 
count has not at all been clear.

I am independently very interested both in,

(1) Exploring the role of all stakeholders, including governments, in 
global IG. However in the context of the recent statment by some civil 
society organisations at the end of WTPF, I had asked for clarification 
on what exactly is meant by equal role/ participation of all 
stakeholders. I got no response. While i fully accept the legitimacy of 
some civil society organisations getting together  and issuing 
statements that they agree on, due to time related exigencies or 
otherwise, even when they are aprt of wider networks, what I do not find 
legitimate is not even providing clarifications about text of the 
statement post facto to members of those networks.

and

(2) exploring how IGF can be more effective, and produce more concrete 
outcomes (we, as in my organisation, did a lot in this regard at the WG 
on IGF improvements against a lot of resistance - active or passive - 
from some other civil society participants, which I am still to fully 
understand). However this is a larger - much larger - subject - which 
should be deliberated in CS lists and a considered specific proposal 
should be made. Such a proposal cannot be pushed through a back-door of 
what looks like a completely different proposal about taking up a 
particular subject for discussion at the IGF.

For these reasons, we cant sign it, and propose that BestBits and IRP 
coalition do not sign it either..

parminder


On Tuesday 21 May 2013 10:58 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) wrote:
> i agree!
>
> 2013/5/21, Brown, Abbe<abbe.brown at abdn.ac.uk>:
>> I think yes
>>
>> Abbe
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
>> Marianne Franklin
>> Sent: 21 May 2013 10:29
>> To: Jeremy Malcolm;irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> Subject: Re: [IRPCoalition] [bestbits] Reminder: please endorse IGF proposal
>> today if you agree
>>
>> Thanks very much Jeremy
>>
>> Dear IRP'ers. Please access the link and let us know if the IRP Coalition
>> should sign up to this. There has been some intense and thorough discussion
>> on the Best Bits list about wording and the drafting process itself:
>> discussions which this list are accustomed to.
>>
>> http://bestbits.net/igf-opinions/
>>
>> Please let us know asap I.e. today!
>>
>> Cheers
>> MF
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> [mailto:irp-bounces at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org] On Behalf Of
>> Jeremy Malcolm
>> Sent: 21 May 2013 10:21
>> To:irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> Subject: Re: [IRPCoalition] [bestbits] Reminder: please endorse IGF proposal
>> today if you agree
>>
>> On 21/05/13 16:59, Marianne Franklin wrote:
>>> Dear Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you resend the link/document please and through to the IRP list
>>> as I see that time is short. For some reason I can't access the
>>> statement to forward or read.
>> http://bestbits.net/igf-opinions
>>
>> --
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