[bestbits] RE: [governance] FW: [IP] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secrAnet files reveal | World news | guardian.co.uk

[parminder]

Rogue power can *only* be addressed by legitimate power. And legitimate 
power should stem from people's will. Democracy consists in creating and 
operating institutions that can convert people's will into *exercisable* 
legitimate power to resist rogue power, however inefficient such a 
conversion in practice may be (which needs continuous engagements for 
evolutionary - and sometimes revolutionary - improvements).

  So, the response to counter the rogue (global) power of US plus big 
Internet businesses is to create legitimate power vis a vis the global 
Internet.

Refusing the existence of rogue power, or otherwise doing nothing about 
it, just helps propagate it. Such a stance, in my view, constitutes 
active politics in favour of rogue power.

Simple and basic political theory, but many in the IG space seem to so 
often miss it...


On Friday 07 June 2013 10:18 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
> Great...
>
> So how are you suggesting we oppose this and exactly who/what are we
> opposing?
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:29 PM
> To: michael gurstein
> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> Subject: Re: [governance] FW: [IP] NSA has direct access to tech giants'
> systems for user data, secrAnet files reveal | World news | guardian.co.uk
>
> [MG>] ...
>
>> We also know that anyone/country which can/will do its surveillance
>> and to the max, that's the nature of that beast..
> so we shouldn't oppose it?
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
>

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