[bestbits] Delivery of International civil society letter to Congress to follow up from HRC statement

Thu Jun 13 10:16:26 EDT 2013

I like parminder suggestions on non-US citizens.

I also agree with suggestion on delivering this on Monday.

Who could take a final look for style and grammar? Much of it was lost
during the editing process. I can try, but it would be better if a native
english speaker take the lead on the final round.

Carol

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:08 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:

>
> The statement has turned out well. However, I remain concerned about the
> fact that the issue of non citizens related content surveillance has not at
> all been addressed by the US authorities. They havent bothered to say a
> word on it (not that it is easily defensible).  I would like the group to
> consider adding the following paragraph somewhere......
>
>
> "We are extremely disappointed that, in all the post 'disclosures'
> statements, US authorities have only insisted that there was no access
> obtained to content related to *US citizens*, and just their
> communication meta-data was collected. There has not been  a word on the
> issue of large-scale access to content related to non US citizens, which is
> a violation of their human rights. The focussing of the US authorities on
> the difference between treatment of US citizens and non-citizens on an
> issue which essentially relates to violation of human rights is very
> problematic. Human rights are universal, and every government must refrain
> from violating them for all people, and not merely for its citizens. The
> current and future US law and practices on this matter should take note of
> this. "
>
>
> I  still have issues with the role of the involved companies, which I
> will address in a separate email. I am fine though to address them
> separately, through a possible second statement.
>
> Meanwhile the second sentence in the following somehow looks not quite
> right.
>
>  "The introduction of untargeted surveillance mechanisms at the heart of
> global digital communications severely threatens human rights in the
> digital age. *These new forms of decentralized power reflect fundamental
> shifts in the structure of information systems in modern societies**.*[3] and
> aAny step in this direction needs to be scrutinized through ample, deep
> and transparent debate. Interference with the human rights of citizens by
> any government, their own or foreign, is unacceptable."
>
> What is being referred to as a 'form of decentralised power'? From the
> reference I take it, it is about 'arab spring' kind of people's power, but
> that doesnt look clear from the way the sentence is wedged between the
> other two sentences...
>
>
> parminder
>
>
>
>  On Thursday 13 June 2013 05:11 PM, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>
> Also, in response to Parminder's questions: while we had agreed from the
> beginning that the focus of this particular statement would be the US
> Congress, I feel (and I just reread it to check) that it does foreground
> the concerns of non-US citizens/resident (as it was meant to do in my
> reading as well). Parminder, do you really feel that doesn't come out at
> all? In that case, we do have some more work to do....
>
>
> On 13 June 2013 16:28, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in> wrote:
>
>>  Anriette, is there a strong reason why you feel we should release this
>> tomorrow already? My inclination would be to agree with Nnenna and others
>> and to wait until Monday, but would be keen to know why you feel tomorrow
>> is a better idea.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 June 2013 14:37, Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi people
>>>
>>>  I will say  submit on Monday.  When you kick off the week with it, you
>>> will have ample time to rave up media attention on it..
>>>  I am hoping Mandela does not give up the fight.. because that will
>>> overshadow any other Internet news...
>>>
>>>  I am booked for the very first Africa Internet Summit in Lusaka next
>>> week.  I do hope to be able to draw attention to the statement, as well as
>>> some that have been made by Best Bits.
>>>
>>>  Best of the day..
>>>
>>>  Nnenna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org>wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Greetings everyone
>>>>
>>>> Content is coming along well.
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy, in response to your question, what about giving people until
>>>> 21h00 GMT/UTC today, Thursday. Then you can close the text, finalise it,
>>>> and release for sign-ons and give people until 16h00 GMT/UTC Friday for
>>>> sign ons and then we can send it off before the end of the business day
>>>> in Washington DC (will be 12h00 in DC).
>>>>
>>>> That will accommodate Parminder's request, but still enable us to get
>>>> enough sign ons and get the letter to Washington DC on Friday. Only
>>>> region that will have a shortish period for sign ons will be the
>>>> Americas.
>>>>
>>>> Will this work?
>>>>
>>>> Anriette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/06/2013 08:13, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - --
>>>> - ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org
>>>> executive director, association for progressive communications
>>>> www.apc.org
>>>> po box 29755, melville 2109
>>>> south africa
>>>> tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 <%2B27%2011%20726%201692>
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>>
>>  --
>> Dr. Anja Kovacs
>> The Internet Democracy Project
>>
>> +91 9899028053 | @anjakovacs
>> www.internetdemocracy.in
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Anja Kovacs
> The Internet Democracy Project
>
> +91 9899028053 | @anjakovacs
> www.internetdemocracy.in
>
>
>

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