[bestbits] IGF in Indonesia cancelled?

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Fri Jul 26 09:28:40 EDT 2013


Hi,

I expect that time between when a letter is announced, sent and then received is the time during which the mad search for money will occur.

Cards are being laid on the table, but the game isn't over yet.

avri

On 26 Jul 2013, at 00:53, Donny B.U. wrote:

> 
> yes, there will be a MAG meeting today at UTC +13
> also indeed, copy of official letter from the government not received yet by the committee 
> 
> -dbu-
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> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:46 AM, joy <joy at apc.org> wrote:
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> One follow up - Anriette has last night been in touch with Chengatai who advises there is no offcial word from the Indonesian government about cancellation, but they have advised of a shortfall in funds and the IGF secretariat is working with them to try to secure funds.
> Apparently there will be or is a MAG meeting today and there may be a more formal update soon.
> That is all I know at present.
> best
> Joy
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> 
> there is a MAG meeting today
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> On 26/07/2013 4:12 p.m., Bijoy Mitra wrote:
> > Dear Colleague,
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>       > I agreeing, we should get clarifications from Secretiate.
>       Regards _. B.K.Mitra 
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>       > *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] IGF in Indonesia cancelled?
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>       > Hi Anja - likewise I have heard rumours but nothing confirmed
>       until this.
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>       > I suggest we seek an official response from the Secretariat.
>       It may yet be that alternative sources of funding are found, but
>       we should seek a response and some kind of confirmation as soon as
>       possible.
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>       > I'm happy to write to Chengatai - has anyone else already
>       done so?
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>       > Joy
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>       > On 26/07/2013 3:45 p.m., Anja Kovacs wrote:
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>       > > Dear all,
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>       > > After having heard rumours swirling for a while now, I
>       was very sad to receive the message below via an AP IGF email
>       list. Looks like the Indonesia IGF, at least for now, stands
>       cancelled. Anyone here knows more?
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>       > > Best,
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>       > > Anja
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>       > > From: *Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)* <
> TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg
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> <mailto:TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>>
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>       > > Date: 26 July 2013 08:50
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>       > > Subject: [Rigf_program] IGF in Indonesia cancelled
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>       > > To: "
> program at aprigf.asia
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> <mailto:program at aprigf.asia>" <program at aprigf.asia
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>       
> <mailto:program at aprigf.asia>>
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>       > > Folks,
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>       > > This is sad but official: the Indonesian organizers have
>       cancelled the IGF. The announcement was made by the chair of the
>       organizing committee (a businessman) after a meeting with the
>       minister and the civil society group.
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>       >
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>       > > There is a news report in Bahasa Indonesia at
>       
> http://inet.detik.com/read/2013/07/25/135130/2314218/328/kurang-dana-forum-internet-dunia-batal-digelar-di-bali
> . 
>       Use Google translate and you will be able to read.
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>       >
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>       > > I had met the civil society organizers just this week.
>       They were asking for possible tips on fund raising. After
>       exploring the options, we concluded that they had approached most
>       of the likely sponsors. Yes, there were some possibilities they
>       had overlooked but these were not many.
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>       >
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>       > > According to the news report, out of the US$2.2M (Rp22
>       billion) budget, they had raised US$900k. The Ministry had given
>       US$250k. So they had a shortfall of US$1.05M.
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>       >
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>       > > Third party sources I checked (i.e. Not the Indonesians
>       themselves) said that one major cost was that the UN had asked for
>       US$900k to fly personnel and security apparatus to the meeting.
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>       >
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>       > > Knowing a little of the inside story, I would say the
>       situation is more complex than one might have guessed. Next year
>       is the election year for Indonesia. So companies are asking: if I
>       support you now but you do not win, what happens? Then two weeks
>       before the IGF, there is the APEC meeting in the same venue. So
>       the feeling that is Indonesia will be on the world's stage at that
>       time already. Meanwhile, the Minister of Communication, whose
>       ministry oversees the IGF, is under allegations of corruption.
>       It's one of those series of unfortunate events.
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>       >
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>       > > Regards,
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>       > > Peng Hwa
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