<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><div class="gmail_default"><b>** Since April 1 2024 - the ISOC Live community livestream service is no longer funded by the Internet Society - big thanks to our first monthly sustaining sponsor Vint Cerf for his support! **</b><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div class="gmail_default">This is underway. No real time text. There are open captions on both the EN and PT streams</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">I will look to segment and archive later in the week, hopefully with transcripts.</div><br><div class="msg4195610135198448552"><u></u><div style="direction:ltr;background-color:rgb(246,247,247);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,blinkmacsystemfont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen-Sans,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:15px;color:rgb(16,21,23);line-height:1.7;margin:0px"><table role="presentation" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="m_4195610135198448552body" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:752.4px"><tbody><tr><td class="m_4195610135198448552container" style="margin-right:auto;margin-left:auto;font-size:16px;display:block;max-width:832px;width:752.4px"><div class="m_4195610135198448552content" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px"><table role="presentation" class="m_4195610135198448552main" style="border-collapse:collapse;background:rgb(255,255,255);width:752.4px;border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td class="m_4195610135198448552wrapper" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:12px 0px 24px"><table role="presentation" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:752.4px"><tbody><tr><td><div class="m_4195610135198448552open-post-links-mobile" style="text-align:right;color:rgb(100,105,112);margin-bottom:24px;font-size:12px"><a href="https://isoc.live/17791/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(100,105,112)">Read on blog</a> or <a href="https://public-api.wordpress.com/bar/?stat=groovemails-events&bin=wpcom_email_click&redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.com%2Fread%2Fblogs%2F151329629%2Fposts%2F17791&sr=1&signature=a03dee3b83432a161f69051b6e76773d&user=2239291&_e=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&_z=z" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(100,105,112)">Reader</a></div><br><table role="presentation" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:752.4px"><tbody><tr><td><div style="margin-bottom:24px"><div style="margin-bottom:24px"><p style="margin:0px 0px 24px;line-height:1.7;padding:0px"><a href="http://isoc.live/?action=user_content_redirect&uuid=99712a8daeed1df876c2eccc34aeebb33faac64720353dad2eef0ee95a193e76&blog_id=151329629&post_id=17791&user_id=2239291&subs_id=125336&signature=27406d32741d96929ba22fae2e41bca3&email_name=new-post&user_email=joly@punkcast.com&encoded_url=aHR0cHM6Ly9pc29jLmxpdmUvMTc3OTE" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0,113,23)"><img src="https://isoc.live/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/netmundial10-300x169.png" alt="ISOC LIVE" width="300" height="169" style="max-width: 100%; margin-bottom: 24px; clear: both; float: right; margin-left: 1em; padding: 4px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);"></a>On <strong>Monday-Tuesday April 29-30 2024 <a href="http://isoc.live/?action=user_content_redirect&uuid=7b1a661caec55af873fb79f5256feeec09f22f1f6ebf41ea0491982e3c901676&blog_id=151329629&post_id=17791&user_id=2239291&subs_id=125336&signature=ce56f5c5b85d7eba7837bd53eef0e8a0&email_name=new-post&user_email=joly@punkcast.com&encoded_url=aHR0cHM6Ly9jZ2kuYnIv" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(0,113,23)">CGI.br</a> </strong>will host <strong><a href="http://isoc.live/?action=user_content_redirect&uuid=7034f93dfe5d2d623c3cb9b03b0d94768a99b1e82f23d08c6eb20346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