<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><div class="gmail_default">There is discussion on this on the IETF HRPC (Human Rights Protocol Considerations) list</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hrpc/O9OyvXaJQYYObKNFZ5OMwFeLJqg/" target="_blank">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hrpc/O9OyvXaJQYYObKNFZ5OMwFeLJqg/</a></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:18 AM Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><div id="gmail-m_693738659653712033gmail-:1cb"><div id="gmail-m_693738659653712033gmail-:1cf" aria-label="Message Body" aria-multiline="true" style="direction:ltr;min-height:507px"><div class="gmail_default"><br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_default">Via Bill Woodcock of PCH on NANOG, a founding statement + technical paper on '<b>Multistakeholder Imposition of Internet Sanctions</b>' signed by a bunch of people, including former ISOC trustee John Levine.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">EXCERPT</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"> <i>We believe it is now incumbent upon the Internet community to deliberate and make decisions in the face of
humanitarian crises. We may not responsibly dismiss such crises without consideration, nor with consideration only
for the self-interest of our community’s own direct constituents; instead, maturity of governance requires that self interests be weighed in the balance with broader moral and societal considerations. This document is the beginning
of a global Internet governance conversation about the appropriate scope of sanctions, the feasibility of sanctions
within the realm of our collective responsibility, and our moral imperative to minimize detrimental consequences. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><i>Principles for Internet Infrastructure Governance Sanctions </i></b></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>We, the undersigned, agree to the following principles: </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● Disconnecting the population of a country from the Internet is a disproportionate and inappropriate sanction,
since it hampers their access to the very information that might lead them to withdraw support for acts of war
and leaves them with access to only the information their own government chooses to furnish. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● The effectiveness of sanctions should be evaluated relative to predefined goals. Ineffective sanctions waste
effort and willpower and convey neither unity nor conviction. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● Sanctions should be focused and precise. They should minimize the chance of unintended consequences or
collateral damage. Disproportionate or over-broad sanctions risk fundamentally alienating populations. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● Military and propaganda agencies and their information infrastructure are potential targets of sanctions. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● The Internet, due to its transnational nature and consensus-driven multistakeholder system of governance,
currently does not easily lend itself to the imposition of sanctions in national conflicts. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● It is inappropriate and counterproductive for governments to attempt to compel Internet governance
mechanisms to impose sanctions outside of the community’s multistakeholder decision-making process. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>● There are nonetheless appropriate, effective, and specific sanctions the Internet governance community may
wish to consider in its deliberative processes. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><b>Recommendations</b> </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>We believe it is the responsibility of the global Internet governance community to weigh the costs and risks of
sanctions against the moral imperatives that call us to action in defense of society, and we must address this
governance problem now and in the future. We believe the time is right for the formation of a new, minimal,
multistakeholder mechanism, similar in scale to NSP-Sec or Outages, which after due process and consensus
would publish sanctioned IP addresses and domain names in the form of public data feeds in standard forms
(BGP and RPZ), to be consumed by any organization that chooses to subscribe to the principles and their
outcome. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>This process should use clearly documented procedures to assess violations of international norms in an
open, multistakeholder, and consensus-driven process, taking into account the principles of non-overreach and
effectiveness in making its determinations. This system mirrors existing systems used by network operators to block
spam, malware, and DDoS attacks, so it requires no new technology and minimal work to implement. </i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>We call upon our colleagues to participate in a multistakeholder deliberation using the mechanism outlined above, to
decide whether the IP addresses and domain names of the Russian military and its propaganda organs should be
sanctioned, and to lay the groundwork for timely decisions of similar gravity and urgency in the future. </i><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Bill writes:</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><i>Now we can focus on operationalization. Mailing list, web site, etc. are in the process of being set up.<br><br>The goal is to have a minimal, lightweight mechanism with BGP and RPZ feeds that networks can voluntarily subscribe to. 99% of the time, they’d be empty. Occasionally, when the Internet community believes that a military or propaganda agency is problematic enough to be worth sanctioning, IPs and domains would be added to the feed. The mechanism is exactly the same as is currently used for blackholing abuse IPs and domains, so doesn’t take anything new on the subscribing network’s side, just one more feed.<br><br>We’re anticipating that debate over what goes into the list will only happen very occasionally, and the discussion list will be quiet the rest of the time. A lot like NSP-Sec and Outages. And there’ll probably be a lot of overlap with those groups. All are welcome, look for an announcement in a few more days.</i><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>--------------------------------------<br>Joly MacFie +1<span title="Call with Google Voice">2185659365</span> </div><div>--------------------------------------</div>-</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>-</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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