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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/21 1:03 pm, Suresh
      Ramasubramanian wrote:<br>
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            The one thing I am opposed to is setting some sort of
            qualification bar that is based on an individuals rank or
            status in an organisation rather than their knowledge,
            network of contacts across other policy and technical
            groups, and contributions.  Beyond that I agree with
            Wolfgang. <br>
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    <p>UN SG who makes the selection is very clear, this is a CEOs level
      Panel .. it is part of the application criteria .. The Leadership
      Panel will consist of CEOs -- that makes it absolute inappropriate
      for a post office and messaging role.. <br>
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    <p><b>That fact alone counts for the present purpose of either
        agreeing with or criticizing and opposing the IGF Leadership
        Panel.</b></p>
    <p>Other views, ideas, etc about the IGF, its success, failure, etc
      are largely irrelevant to the issue at hand -- and a pressing and
      very serious one. They serve to confuse the matter which actually
      needs discussion, and forming a collective view on. <br>
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    <p>APC, ISOC, etc signed a letter earlier which makes clear that
      they would NOT want the kind of Panel that has now been set up.</p>
    <p>There is an email on the ISOC list that says UK ISOC was against
      any such panel.</p>
    <p>I have got numerous emails, from both top level people in the
      civil society and tech community, who are all dismayed at the new
      Leadership Panel. <br>
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    <p>But why no one stands up and opposes it openly and clearly ..
      What is behind this collective failure?<br>
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    <p>Bec we have ended up with an IG civil society, and tech
      community, which is wedded to protecting the status quo and not
      rocking the boat and standing up ... That is the exact opposite of
      what civil society is meant to do -- which is to 'speak to power'.</p>
    <p>Lets discuss what brought things to such a pass. <br>
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    <p>And also perhaps what role MS ism and IGF has to play in
      fostering a civil society whose leaders are more interested in
      retaining favour of other powerful people in other sectors, than
      being responsible to their constituencies, and raising their
      issues, and bringing in their voices ... If they were still doing
      what they are needed to, the civil society members, leaders and
      groups would be discussing and writing letters opposing the
      Leadership Panel, In my estimate, 80-90 percent of civil society
      and also technical community actually oppose any CEO kind of IGF
      Leadership Panel foisted over the IGF.</p>
    <p> But why no one is discussing this and making their views and
      opposition open. Is it because they want to protect their own
      positions and embedding in the power structures? what else, one
      wonder?</p>
    <p>parminder<br>
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            As for Evan’s email I don’t recall expressing an opinion on
            it and you’ve been going on and on about that.  Yes the igf
            is a talk shop. Yes talk shops have a utility in bringing
            disparate groups together and encouraging communication (and
            I’ve said this since the first Athens meeting).   The talk
            doesn’t help as much if the same usual suspects attend IGF
            and relevant stakeholders from other groups disengage or do
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            So the “building bridges” part certainly needs to be done at
            a strategic level rather than piecemeal.  Forming such a
            committee is a good idea. Forming it with arbitrary criteria
            and with no consensus sought from  existing stakeholders is
            not a good idea.  And this is something MAG should have been
            working towards already, so spinning this sort of thing up
            as a sub committee of MAG rather than as a “leadership
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      <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
          Governance <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:governance-bounces@lists.igcaucus.org"><governance-bounces@lists.igcaucus.org></a> on
          behalf of parminder via Governance
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"><governance@lists.igcaucus.org></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 26, 2021 12:51:27 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"><governance@lists.igcaucus.org></a>; At-Large Worldwide
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Governance] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Fwd:
          [WG-Strategy] [At-Large] Seeking roll back of the IGF
          Leadership Panel</font>
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        <p><font face="Liberation Sans">Sorry, Siva, i confused your
            email with that from Suresh .. responding to too many emails
            on the subject :) .. But the views stand otherwise  -- also
            the poser to those who seem agreeing with both Evan's and
            Wolfgang's views on the subject.. parminder</font></p>
        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/21 12:41 pm, parminder
          wrote:<br>
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                  <td>Re: [Internet Policy] Fwd: [WG-Strategy]
                    [At-Large] Seeking roll back of the IGF Leadership
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                  <td>Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:39:33 +0530</td>
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                  <td>parminder <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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                  <td>sivasubramanian muthusamy <a
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            <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/21 11:44 am,
              sivasubramanian muthusamy wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 26,
                    2021 at 10:57 AM parminder via InternetPolicy <<a
                      href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <p>Contrary to Evan's view, Wolfgang considers the
                        IGF to be extremely successful, and it is in
                        this path of its spectacular evolutionary
                        success that the Leadership Panel (LP) is placed
                        as a kind of necessary and very useful
                        development .. <br>
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                  <div>The view that IGF is removed from World's reality
                    and the criticisms such as it is nothing more than a
                    Talk shop --- all this comes from a general
                    difficulty in measuring the immeasurable. It
                    appeared to be a talk shop (Parminder is definitely
                    among those who talked, wasn't he?), no decisions
                    were made, no recommendations were formally made,
                    but hasn't the IGF worked in ways we can't measure?
                    How would anyone measure IGF's influence on Internet
                    Policy? Because the effect of the IGF is not
                    quantifiable, it is not quite unfair to comment in
                    such adverse terms. IGF is indeed on a path of
                    evolution, it is spectacular in its evolution
                    because in such a short time as 15 years, the IGF
                    has seated stakeholders inside the room where Policy
                    used to be framed only on the basis of what
                    Governments understood (or misunderstood).</div>
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            <p>Very well, you have a right to these views. <br>
            </p>
            <p>I may just only remind you that to Evan's email where he
              called the IGF as a bubble removed from the society, an
              elitist talk shop, and having only created entropy in
              these last 15 years (that was almost all he said in the
              email about the IGF) ...
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            <p>you responded yesterday on the At-Large elist in the
              following manner, and I quote</p>
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                  > I am by and large in agreement with Evan.<br>
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            <p>ENDs</p>
            <p>In this part of the email, I was just asking you - and
              others like you who seemed to be agreeing to both sides
              --  to make up your mind one way or the other .. Please
              stop confusing people. That would really raise the quality
              of the debate.... parminder
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                  <div>If the past 15 years have given the IGF a frame,
                    the leadership panel will breathe life into the IGF.</div>
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                      <p>Not just the past, but the two also
                        fundamentally disagree on there future
                        expectations from the LP... Evan thinks that the
                        LP will somehow magically address and solve
                        pressing digital policy issues, about solving
                        which he (like me) is very eager. Wolfgang is
                        clear that the LP is "not the "new Internet
                        policy makers", they function like a "post
                        office", bringing the messages from the
                        multistakeholder IGF to the intergovernmental
                        negotiation table and vice versa".</p>
                      <p>Since whatever little support the LP has
                        focuses on this "messages" and "post office" and
                        "bridge' function, and it is also the crux of
                        Wolfgang's argument, let me focus on it.</p>
                      <p>It should be noted that UN SG wants a star cast
                        for the LP, and calls for only CEO and deputy
                        CEO levels to apply... </p>
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                      <p>These are big-ego people very fond of
                        expressing and touting their views...</p>
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                  <div> How is this characterization made here? <br>
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                      <p>These are just not the people who act as
                        message carriers and post office - an
                        archetypical description of bureaucracy's
                        function, enough of which exists and links
                        between the IGF and decision making bodies. (If
                        you want you can work on improving that part
                        which is what meets the role and objective
                        description you provide for the LP. Not a group
                        of CEOs.). Therefore there is a fundamental, and
                        in my view, fatal, dis-junction between the HR
                        description and institutional objectives sought.
                        May you please explain this. <br>
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                      <p> I would invite you to expound your views with
                        clear practical examples. To help that, lets
                        take that a LP has been set up with an
                        hypothetical membership of the ministers of
                        France and Indonesia, a Senior VP of Microsoft
                        and CEO of TCS (Indian software major), and CEOs
                        of ISOC and APNIC, and ok let me not speculate
                        on civil society leaders chosen (but believe me,
                        their egos can be bigger than those of industry
                        CEOs).</p>
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                  <div>That is an over-simplified example.  <br>
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                      <p>Lets say one of these IGF Leaders is at an
                        important global meeting, and is introduced as
                        such , as being a part of IGF's Leadership
                        Group/ Panel. Wolfgang, please try to give us
                        some concrete examples of what s/he might do, in
                        nature of a "post office" and carrier of
                        messages from the IGF, and back...<br>
                      </p>
                      <p>Would s/he hand over and describe, say the
                        outcome document of an IGF's Best Practices
                        Forum... Lets take the example of the BPF on
                        data and new technologies ... I dont see a
                        minister or an industry CEO (or ISOC CEO)
                        setting aside her/ his views on such a globally
                        hot topic like data, and share some lame as well
                        as politically controversial views from this
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                          BFP's outcome paper</a>. But I am happy to
                        hear from you your description of what would
                        likely happen in such a scenario, which is the
                        embodiment of your main argument in favour of
                        LP. And if the LP person is just to hand over
                        the outcome paper to the meeting or read its
                        summary (which s/he cannot do other than in a
                        selective manner, given her/ his inevitable own
                        strong views on data etc), why is this function
                        not much better done by the bureaucracy, which
                        does it best (and knows where to stop). So if
                        you may, just add 2-3 more people to the IGF
                        sect or the UNDESA's IGF desk ... <br>
                      </p>
                      <p>But sure, Wolfgang, pl you illuminate us how
                        such a thing will actually fold out -- using a
                        hypothetical as above, or another of your own
                        ... Speaking in abstract in terms of messages
                        and post offices and bridges means nothing .. We
                        are at a serious fork in the evolution of
                        institutions of digital governance. So, please
                        lets get real.
                        <br>
                      </p>
                      <p>Currently, the MAG Chair at a global meeting
                        limits herself to describing the process
                        functions and the greatness of the IGF .. Show
                        us a picture of IGF leaders getting
                        'substantive' in their outside communication,
                        and I'd show what is fatally wrong with the LP
                        idea. <br>
                      </p>
                      <p>Let us know how a groups of Leaders will
                        actually perform the function you lay out, and
                        why that function is not better performed by
                        strengthening the bucreaucracy link between IGF
                        and others, it being to my mind an archetypical
                        bureacracy function.</p>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <div>It is just the opposite of a design of
                    bureaucracy.</div>
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                      <p><br>
                      </p>
                      <p>parminder<br>
                      </p>
                      <p><br>
                      </p>
                      <p>On 26/11/21 9:46 am, parminder wrote:<br>
                      </p>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <p>I have views on both Wolfgang's and Evan's
                          responses to our letter, and their position
                          vis a vis the new IGF Leadership Panel.</p>
                        <p>What however completely passes me is how
                          anyone can agree with both Evan's and
                          Wolfgang's positions, as some have some...
                          Unless, of offense, but one is just desperate
                          to somehow agree with whatever is happening,
                          and looks difficult to change.</p>
                        <p>Evan's and Wolfgang's positions come from
                          fundamentally opposed premises, and have
                          fundamentally different expectations from the
                          Leadership Panel. In fact there positions like
                          in two opposite extremes from mine, or in
                          other words mine is actually somewhere in the
                          middle. I therefore find it difficult to in
                          the same email argue against the two
                          positions.</p>
                        <p>Meanwhile, I'd request those supporting both
                          positions to help me understand how both can
                          be right. Thanks.</p>
                        <p>Evan considers the IGF to a bubble removed
                          from world's reality, something which has
                          entirely failed. It is so dead or nearly so,
                          that Even is happy if it can be given a last
                          squeeze, everything being otherwise so dismal,
                          that something good may come out.. He himself
                          says he is not sure, and I am paraphrasing, if
                          his medicine is worse than the cure. He just
                          thinks that the IGF is all talk, ineffective,
                          etc, and anything outcome- oriented is better
                          than that. He seems to have applied no mind to
                          what that outcome- oriented would be, how it
                          would work, and what kind of outcomes can be
                          expected (obviously, not all outcomes are
                          describable.) I consider it kind of desperate
                          kind of view, which, my apologies, but does
                          not deserve any serious consideration among
                          people who concern themselves with long term
                          nature and implications of governance
                          institutions. It is quite like, and as
                          desperate as, crying out, all this bloody
                          liberal democracy just doesn't work, bring in
                          a good dictator inside, we would at least see
                          some action!
                          <br>
                        </p>
                        <p>This is despite that I normally have quite
                          respected Evan's views, agree with him that
                          the IGF has become an insiders bubble, and had
                          a disease needing cure, etc. He is completely
                          wrong that in indicated that we as letter
                          writers have any intention to perpetuate the
                          status quo, live off it, etc, which I think he
                          need to know more about how much we fight the
                          status quo every day, including the IGFs. He
                          is also wrong that no alternatives are
                          offered; we so regularly offer them, and we
                          were also one of the most active members of
                          the CSTD WG on IGF improvements. <br>
                        </p>
                        <p>To sum; I take Evan's critique to be of an
                          outsider, who has rightly seem a lot of
                          problems with the IGF, but not been invested
                          enough, nor thought through the new Leadership
                          Panel's nature and likely implications,
                          whereby his statement of the problem is fine,
                          but accepting the Leadership Panel as a
                          solution to try out way off .. Since he
                          himself says he isnt sure if the sure is
                          better than the disease, I think he confirms
                          my summing of his position. I read it as
                          genuine expression of desperation with the
                          current IGF, which I considerably share, and
                          nothing more -- nothing that can really be
                          taken serious about the actual discussion
                          here, about the new Leadership Panel ..
                          <br>
                        </p>
                        <p>parminder <br>
                        </p>
                        <div>On 25/11/21 5:37 pm, Winthrop Yu via
                          InternetPolicy wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <p>Not that i disagree with what Wolfgang is
                            saying here, but i am more fully in accord
                            with the comments on this by Evan and
                            Roberto on the At-Large list. (We have a
                            forked discussion.)
                            <br>
                          </p>
                          <p>WYn<br>
                            <br>
                          </p>
                          <div>On 25 Nov 2021 7:18 pm, Carlos Afonso via
                            InternetPolicy wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">Careful and relevant
                            considerations by Wolfgang. <br>
                            <br>
                            A lot is still on the discussion table
                            regarding how this HL will work and relate
                            to the overall IGF community. One option is
                            to discard it, another is to keep it and
                            make sure we participate in the process from
                            the beginning.
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            []s fraternos <br>
                            <br>
                            --c.a. <br>
                            <br>
                            On 24/11/2021 16:47, Wolfgang Kleinwächter
                            wrote: <br>
                            <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                              <br>
                              I disagree with the letter, signed by
                              Parminder and Milton. I do not share their
                              arguments. I believe, that Parminders and
                              Miltons proposal, to "urge civil society
                              and technical community, to refrain from
                              sending any nominations for the IGF
                              Leadership Panel" is very
                              counterproductive, undermines the future
                              role of the IGF and weakens civil society
                              engagement in Internet related public
                              policy making at the global level.
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              The IGF is indeed a unique experiment in
                              the UN system. Its key purpose is to
                              broaden the participatory base of digital
                              policy making. Since 2006 it has enabled a
                              broad variety of voices to be heard,
                              including those voices otherwise
                              marginalized.It was (and is) a kitchen to
                              cook new ideas. Discussion without
                              barriers. Bottom Up. This was the
                              intention. It has worked, but it did have
                              also its limits.
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              As a member of the UN Working Group on
                              Internet Governance (WGIG), which proposed
                              the establishment of the IGF in 2005, I
                              think we were very right to create the IGF
                              as a "discussion plattform" (forum
                              function) without any decision making
                              capacity. The fear was, that if the IGF
                              becomes a negotiation body, this will kill
                              free and frank discussions. And indeed,
                              the informal nature of the IGF did open
                              "mouths and minds" of all stakeholders.
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              I was also a member of the UNCSTD IGF
                              Improvement Working Group (2012). In this
                              group we agreed that the IGF should
                              continue as a discussion platform, but
                              needs more tangible outputs.
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              The outcome of the IGF are its (sometimes
                              controversial) "messages". There are no
                              "IGF positions": some stakeholders say so,
                              others say so. It is a bottom up process.
                              And this is good for a discussion
                              platform.,
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              However, the digital world has moved
                              forward in the last 17 years. Internet
                              Governance isn´t anymore a "technical
                              issue with political implications", it is
                              a "political issue with a technical
                              component". For many Internet related
                              public policy issues new bodies have been
                              created outside the WSIS process and
                              dislinked from the IGF. In the 2020s,
                              there are more than a dozen global
                              negotiation bodies where issues like
                              cybersecurity, digital economy,
                              sustainable development or human rights in
                              the digital age are disucssed. Those
                              issues are on the agenda of the IGF since
                              its beginning. But the reality is, that
                              the policy makers in the new negotiation
                              bodies, which are primarily
                              intergovernmental bodies, are in many
                              cases not informed about the IGF
                              discussions. They even have very often no
                              clue what was discussed at the IGF. There
                              is neither a formal nor an informal
                              linkage between the "discussion layer"
                              (the multistakeholder IGF) and the the
                              "decision making layer" (new
                              intergovernmental negotiation bodies).
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              There is a need to bring the expertise,
                              knowledge and ideas from the
                              multistakeholder IGF to the
                              intergovernmental negotiation table. And
                              the IGF will benefit, if the diplomats
                              report back - formally or informally - to
                              the IGF sessions. The idea of the
                              Multistakeholder Leadership Panel (MLP) is
                              driven by this idea to build bridges. <br>
                              <br>
                              The proposal for the Multistakeholder IGF
                              Leadership Panel is the result of a years
                              long multistakeholder discussion process,
                              where all pros and cons of such a new unit
                              were critically evaluated and considered
                              by many different groups, including many
                              civil society organisations. It was
                              inspired by the UNCSTD work. It started
                              with the UNSG High Level Panel on Digital
                              Cooperation (2018). It was developed by
                              the Option Paper 5A&B (2019) and
                              further specified in the UNSG Roadmap
                              (2020).
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Risks, which were articulated in various
                              statements of civil society organisations,
                              that a new unit will emerge outside the
                              IGF and could lead to a competitive
                              situation, duplication or overlapping of
                              functions, with the potential to weaken
                              the IGF, has been heard by the UNSG. My
                              understanding of the multistakeholder
                              leadership panel - with its very limited
                              mandate - is, that it is part of the
                              general IGF structure and rooted in the
                              (broader) MAG. It is like an executive
                              committee for the MAG and will make the
                              work of the whole MAG more efficent and
                              effective.  It makes the IGF stronger,
                              more visible on the international scene
                              and will open the door for a more enhanced
                              bottom up cooperation among all
                              stakeholders in global Internet policy
                              making.  It is an IGF+. Members of the new
                              Panel will act as ambassadors between the
                              discussion and decision-making layers.
                              They are not the "new Internet policy
                              makers", they function like a "post
                              office", bringing the messages from the
                              multistakeholder IGF to the
                              intergovernmental negotiation table and
                              vice versa. <br>
                              <br>
                              This is a unique opportunity for civil
                              society. And civil society organisations,
                              in particular from the Global South,
                              should make use of it. Strong civil
                              society representation in the
                              multistakeholder leadership panel will
                              contribute to build a human centric
                              information society, based on the Civil
                              Society WSIS Declaration (2003), the Tunis
                              Agenda (2005) and the Multistakeholder
                              NetMundial Statement (2014). And it will
                              pave the way for a strong civil society
                              voice in the process towards a "Global
                              Digital Compact" (2023). <br>
                              <br>
                              Best wishes <br>
                              <br>
                              Wolfgang <br>
                              <br>
                              Below are links to our "multistakeholder
                              statement" for the Option Paper 5A&B
                              (2020) and the outcome from a
                              multistakeholder expert seminar (2021)
                              where a lot of civil society organisations
                              where represented.
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <a
href="https://circleid.com/posts/20210304-framing-the-internet-governance-debate-long-road-to-wsis-2025"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://circleid.com/posts/20210304-framing-the-internet-governance-debate-long-road-to-wsis-2025</a>
                              <a
href="https://circleid.com/posts/20210304-framing-the-internet-governance-debate-long-road-to-wsis-2025"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
<https://circleid.com/posts/20210304-framing-the-internet-governance-debate-long-road-to-wsis-2025></a>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <a
href="https://circleid.com/posts/20200426-cross-pollination-in-cyberspace-internet-governance-spaghetti-ball"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://circleid.com/posts/20200426-cross-pollination-in-cyberspace-internet-governance-spaghetti-ball</a>
                              <a
href="https://circleid.com/posts/20200426-cross-pollination-in-cyberspace-internet-governance-spaghetti-ball"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
<https://circleid.com/posts/20200426-cross-pollination-in-cyberspace-internet-governance-spaghetti-ball></a>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <blockquote type="cite">parminder via
                                At-Large <a
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<at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a> hat am 24.11.2021 16:12
                                geschrieben: <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Dear All, <br>
                                <br>
                                Please find enclosed a letter addressed
                                to the UN Secretary General appealing to
                                him to roll back the decision for an IGF
                                Leadership Panel.
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                The letter is co-signed by Dr Milton
                                Mueller, on behalf  of the Internet
                                Governance Project, Georgia Institute of
                                Technology School of Public Policy, and
                                Parmider Jeet Singh, for IT for Change,
                                and the Just Net Coalition.
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                It is cc-ed to representatives of civil
                                society and technical community groups
                                requesting them to refrain from sending
                                nominations for the IGF Leadership
                                Panel, and thus legitimizing it.
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                The letter argues how the IGF Leadership
                                Panel militates against the basic idea,
                                objectives and structure of the IGF, and
                                will weaken it.
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Best, parminder <br>
                                <br>
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