<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Mohamed, I think we should pay attention to multilingualism but I think we need to be realistic and target it right.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Do we aim to bring non-English speakers issues to the fore or is it to promote certain languages.If the former then I think we can't have it with the UN expensive style of "interpretation" only that interprets with no context. They are not even popular. yes they are great for organizations PR and showing that they are "inclusive" on the surface. But I think we need to first see if multilingualism as we implement it now  during our meetings actually helps people and find it useful.  </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Truly multilingual environments that are not context based cannot happen because they are too expensive. Unless we just go selective with the languages (like the UN does). I think language in these meetings is about "communications" not to serve to keep a language relevant. I don't think we help people communicate with just general interpretation, it needs more than UN style work. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">As long as we have not identified and brought along the people who cannot communicate in English and that affects their day to day lives on the Internet, then having interpretation is not fruitful.  I don't think our mission in Internet governance processes is to help people who are privileged enough to in fact speak English, to use the interpretation services just to prove a point. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Best</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:57 PM Mohamed ElGohary via Governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div id="gmail-m_3554232703730153354__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-align:left" dir="ltr">
                                        <div>In hybrid IGF events, interpretation should be available for both online and offline audiences. Multilingualism is not affected by the nature of the event as long as it is reliably supported.   </div><div>--<br><table style="color:rgb(32,33,36);font-size:10pt;max-width:600px;direction:ltr"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="max-width:470px;padding-bottom:10px;margin-bottom:8px"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="470" style="width:470px"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;width:10px;padding-right:10px"><img src="https://d36urhup7zbd7q.cloudfront.net/b83a5cfc-96d5-4fe4-bf8f-c8f561b34489/Sophia51.format_png.resize_200x.jpeg" width="96" height="96" alt="photo" style="border-radius: 0px; width: 96px; height: 96px; max-width: 120px;"></td><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;border-right:1px solid rgb(69,102,142)"></td><td style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;margin:0px;text-align:initial;color:rgb(100,100,100);padding:0px 10px"><div style="margin-bottom:5px;margin-top:0px"><b>Mohamed ElGohary</b><br>Lingua Manager and Board Member, Global Voices</div><table width="470" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="width:470px;margin-top:5px"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(141,141,141);font-size:12px"><p style="margin:0px"></p></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(141,141,141);font-size:12px"><p style="margin:0px"><span style="white-space:nowrap;display:inline-block"><a href="https://globalvoices.org/lingua/translator-application-form" style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-decoration-line:none;font-family:sans-serif" target="_blank">https://globalvoices.org/lingua/translator-application-form</a>/</span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(141,141,141);font-size:12px"></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin-top:10px"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style="padding-top:10px"><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://globalvoices.org/author/Mohamed-ElGohary/" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/custom/https%3A%2F%2Fd36urhup7zbd7q.cloudfront.net%2F5a68bd9d-111f-429e-b9d2-ba30f21772ad%2F1OvCrbQzOCopy.format_png.resize_32x32.png/16/0.png"></a></td><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://ircpresident.com/" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/custom/https%3A%2F%2Fd36urhup7zbd7q.cloudfront.net%2F8c068851-3fea-4a64-9e75-a8347a759560%2Ffavicon.format_png.resize_32x32.png/16/0.png"></a></td><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://facebook.com/GVlingua" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/facebook/3b5998/16/0.png"></a></td><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://twitter.com/GVLingua" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/twitter/55acee/16/0.png"></a></td><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://plus.google.com/+MohamedElGohary/" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/googleplus/dc4e41/16/0.png"></a></td><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/ircpresident" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/linkedin/0077b5/16/0.png"></a></td><td align="left" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding-right:5px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="http://instragram.com/ircpresident" target="_blank"><img src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/instagram/E4405F/16/0.png"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="clear:both;height:0px"></div><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;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                        <p style="color:rgb(170,170,170);margin-top:10px">On 10-Aug-21 10:30:48 AM, chantal lebrument <<a href="mailto:lebrument@open-root.eu" target="_blank">lebrument@open-root.eu</a>> wrote:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt">Above all, a Virtual only IGF still favors English speakers at the disadvantage of rich, multilingual meetings.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,0,0)"><b>Chantal Lebrument<br></b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,0,0)">Directrice<b><br></b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Courriel:</span> <a href="mailto:lebrument@open-root.eu" target="_blank">lebrument@open-root.eu</a><b><br></b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Mob:</span> +33 6 8369 5460<b><br></b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Twitter:</span><b> </b>@OpenRoot1<b><br></b></span></div><div style="font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(102,0,0)">        <span style="font-size:10pt">  <a href="http://www.open-root.eu" target="_blank">www.open-root.eu</a></span></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 10 août 2021 à 06:02, Mohamed ElGohary via Governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Being a hybrid does not automatically include inclusivity when it is an offline-first event, as historically it is. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 9:54 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy via Governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">How does hybrid affect 'inclusivity'? The caption seems to imply that the IGF 2021 should be a Virtual (only) IGF, rather than a hybrid.  As hybrid includes the inclusive virtual components, what is the emphasis of this statement?  The hybrid meeting should also anticipate a large proportion of virtual participants?<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sivasubramanian M</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:49 AM Valeria Betancourt via Governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear all,<br>
 <br>
The 2021 IGF has been announced as a hybrid event. APC considers that it<br>
is important to make a call to ensure inclusiveness and balanced<br>
participation of stakeholders, particularly the ones from the Global South.<br>
<br>
In our view, the pandemic has multiplied inequalities in access and<br>
participation in policy processes, especially global and regional ones<br>
where travel is required. We fear that the adoption of a hybrid model,<br>
while mobility constraints imposed by the pandemic have not yet been<br>
fully lifted, will contribute to exacerbating those inequalities and<br>
limit opportunities for meaningful participation and engagement. We urge<br>
the organisers to ensure that the decision of adopting a hybrid model is<br>
accompanied by relevant measures to ensure a truly inclusive meeting.<br>
<br>
We've prepared a statement in this regard and would like to invite you<br>
to join us in raising these issues.<br>
<br>
Here is the link to the draft and the form to endorse it: Civil society<br>
calls for a virtual IGF 2021 to strengthen inclusivity | Association for<br>
Progressive Communications (<a href="http://apc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">apc.org</a>):<br>
<a href="https://crm.apc.org/statement/VirtualParticipation-IGF2021" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://crm.apc.org/statement/VirtualParticipation-IGF2021</a><br>
<br>
The statement will be made public on Tuesday Aug 10th and submitted<br>
formally to the IGF Secretariat and MAG. <br>
<br>
We would kindly ask you to confirm your endorsement by Monday 10pm ET.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Valeria<br>
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