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<p><font face="Verdana">It is interesting that some people in NCSG
are now so wild about the jurisdiction over ICANN of US congress
and US government when the NCSG did precious little during the
time that the jurisdiction question was actually being discussed
as a part of IANA transition, including whether ICANN should be
given jurisdictional immunity from the US government...
parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/01/20 5:05 AM, Mueller, Milton L
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message, forwarded from the public list of the Noncommercial
stakeholders constituency, provides a different perspective
on the issue of US congress and .org <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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NCSG-Discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"><NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Pablo Silva Valent<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Letter from Senators+ on .ORG Sale<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>I can only strongly oppose to have the US Congress
having a say in this matter. I think more important than
.org is to not have th US Government, nor any other,
thinking they have some sort of oversee or jurisdiction over
what we do. I think NCSG should actually do a statement
putting the US Cgonress letter in place, making sure that
the line we constantly draw to the GAC is unmistakably
clear. <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>I can oppose to what happened to .org for many
reasons, I can also live with a lot of solutions that
include Ethos having it, but I cannot, under any
circumstance, live with the fact we have to “converse”,
“convince” or “inform” the US congress of what we do. Our
legitimacy, ICANN legitimacy, is beyond US government scope,
this was the IANA Transition holy grail, that is the
primordial fight we need to address in this letter. Can you
imagine having the same reaction of the Russian congress?
The Chinese gov? The Argentina gov? Is not relevant that
they might be viewing thing like us, to some extent. That is
a circunstancial coincidence. What this means is far worse
and dangerous than having a for profit PIR that ultimately
we can regulate in the next contract renewal, in an already
rich and diverse gTLD environment. <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>I urge NCSG PC to put out a word on the letter making
sure the letter is only an expression of speech like any
other organisation or individual out there, but in no way
has a weight, bond or obligation toward the independent
ICANN.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>I think Ac<span style="color:#1F497D">ce</span>s<span
style="color:#1F497D">s</span> did this in good faith an
ignorance, but why did they not come to us for ideas is
beyond me. This was a mistake even they will someday
understand. Next time a big NGO is eager, finally!, to come
to play here, we need to be prepared to give them guidance,
at least in forms if not content. <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Martín<o:p></o:p></p>
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