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<div>...</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">it was part of the Section #10 of "<span>Criteria for Assessing Proposals"</span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> <a href="https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/criteria.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/criteria.htm</a></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>...to comply with the qualification and use requirements of the VeriSign endowment and proposed use of the endowment"</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>....</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Imran</span><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, 9 December 2019, 12:01:26 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <governance@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Continued to previous message ....<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Please find hereunder some record describing that VeriSign has to pay "<span>$5 million</span>" <br clear="none"> <div><span>to establish an <b>endowment</b> <b>to be
used to fund future operating costs</b> <span style="background-color:rgb(253, 248, 105);">of <b>the non-profit entity designated
by ICANN</b> as successor operator of the .org registry</span>.<br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"><span></span></div></div><div dir="ltr">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div>IX. THE VERISIGN ENDOWMENT
</div><p><a shape="rect" href="https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/applications/dotorgfoundation/c40.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">C40</a>. The current .org registry agreement between
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<p>5.1.4 No later than 90 days prior to the Expiration Date, [VeriSign]
will pay to ICANN or ICANN's designee the sum of US $5 million, to be
used by ICANN in it sole discretion to establish an endowment to be
used to fund future operating costs of the non-profit entity designated
by ICANN as successor operator of the .org registry. [VeriSign] agrees
that such funds, once paid to ICANN, will become the property of ICANN
and/or ICANN's designee, and that [VeriSign] will have no ownership
or other rights or interests in such funds or in the manner in which
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<p><a shape="rect" href="https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/applications/dotorgfoundation/c41.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">C41</a>. Do you propose to seek to qualify to receive
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<p><a shape="rect" href="https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/applications/dotorgfoundation/c41.html#411" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">C41.1</a>. If so, describe in detail how you
propose to use this endowment. Include the commitments you propose to
make about the uses to which the endowment would be put. Explain why
those uses are consistent with the smooth, stable transition and operation
of the .org TLD for the benefit of current and future .org registrants.</p>
<p><a shape="rect" href="https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/applications/dotorgfoundation/c41.html#412" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">C41.2</a>. If you propose to seek to qualify
to receive the endowment funds, explain why you believe that your proposed
use is consistent with the terms of the endowment.</p>
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On Monday, 9 December 2019, 11:49:45 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <governance@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Parminder,</div><div dir="ltr">There were 11 bidders. ICANN evaluated 11 proposals when VeriSign was leaving in 2002.</div><div dir="ltr">At that time, the bidding criteria was different, the bidders were quoting their quality of services, as there was objections on VeriSign Support. Secondly, bidders were offering the cost of their fee for services per domain (registration and/or renewal). ISOC was not the lowest bidder.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">No, ISOC/PIR did not have to pay anything. In compensation from ICANN, VeriSign given seed money (<span>Endowment</span>) to ISOC/PIR for capacity building and Registry handling and support <span> 2.6 million domain names</span>. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Regards</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Imran Ahmed Shah<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div>
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On Monday, 9 December 2019, 09:44:57 GMT+5, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
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<p><font face="Verdana">From those who know I request response to
this question:</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Was ISOC given the .org registry as a result
of an auction (apart from other evaluation criteria) or not,
meaning did ISOC pay anything, and if so how much?</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Thanks</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">parminder </font><br clear="none">
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number 6, which I have pasted below. I do not believe Ethos
Capital has a "level of support for the proposal from .ORG
registrants," but the Internet Society did, and that is why .ORG
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proposal from .org registrants.</i></b></span></span><i><br clear="none">
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<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i>Demonstrated support among
registrants in the .org TLD, particularly those actually
using .org domain names for noncommercial purposes, will
be a factor in evaluation of the proposals. Noncommercial
registrants do not have uniform views about policy and
management, and no single organization can fully encompass
the diversity of global civil society. There will likely
be significant difficulties in ascertaining the level of
support for particular .org proposals from throughout the
.org registrants and noncommercial community.
Nevertheless, proposals to operate the .org TLD should
provide available evidence of support from across the
global Internet community.</i></span></span><i><br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Le dim. 8 déc. 2019 9:19 PM, John Levine
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<div>In article <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:CAJjTEvFXJ%2BZLsdLwYF2vMkChKizoZ9RKN7p%2BO_Bj52yiAn858g@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CAJjTEvFXJ+ZLsdLwYF2vMkChKizoZ9RKN7p+O_Bj52yiAn858g@mail.gmail.com</a>>
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<div> It might be more useful to refer to the criteria
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<div>...have you used it yourselves ?<br clear="none">
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<div>...for sure, these criteria are interesting ;
but let me know if there is a specific criterion which
contains, explicitely, the key words : *<i><b><u>By</u></b>
and <u><b>For</b></u></i>* ?<br clear="none">
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