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<div>From: "Ayden Férdeline" <<a href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>></div>
<div>To: "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ" <<a href="mailto:udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng">udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng</a>></div>
<div>Cc: "Bill Woodcock" <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net">woody@pch.net</a>>; "Sheetal Kumar" <<a href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>>; "<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>>; "Ian Peter" <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>; "governance" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 8/12/2019 2:52:14 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale</div><div><br /></div>
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<div>Hi,<br /></div><div><br /></div><blockquote><div>Is iSOC truly a membership organisation? This question needs to be answered convincingly, maybe after this clash, for one to choose to either continue or denounce membership.<br /></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>No, I think there is a widespread misunderstanding here.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I thought ISOC was a membership-based organization too when I became an ISOC member.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I think that ISOC's messaging is not clear. They say the Internet is for everyone, and decisions must be made in a bottom-up multistakeholder manner, but ISOC itself is not a multistakeholder organization.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>ISOC is an independent trust governed by a Board of Trustees.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Individual members have an indirect say in appointing *some* of the Trustees. 4 of the 13 Trustees are appointed by Chapters.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>However, ISOC is not a democratically-run membership organization that exists to represent the views or interests of its members. No decision requires ratification by membership, for example.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I think we should keep discussions about ISOC's governance structure separate from those of the proposed sale of PIR, but this is an extremely important issue that I hope we do not lose sight of.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>As an individual ISOC member I do not think ISOC considers me a stakeholder with whom it owes any responsibilities, obligations, or duties. I think that is extremely problematic. ISOC is the best-funded organization in the Internet freedom movement, but not as effective as it could be were we to better hold them to account for how they spend their public interest money.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Ayden Férdeline<br /></div><div><br /></div><div> <br /></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br /></div><div> On Saturday, 7 December 2019 16:28, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ <<a href="mailto:udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng">udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng</a>> wrote:<br /></div><div> <br /></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>Good steps. Great views.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>The draft statement is super if we address one issue I observe (unless my understanding of it isn't good enough). I think calling for a halt and at the same time seeking <span style="color:rgb(80, 0, 80)"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">greater transparency </span></span></span>and <span style="color:rgb(80, 0, 80)"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">appropriate safeguards...to protect the interests of .ORG </span></span></span>and so on are not in harmony. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>We either call for a halt outlining the strong reasons for the call (stopping at that for now, as Brett posited) or we ask the board to assure us of the appropriate mechanisms in place to safeguard the interests and rights of registrants and their sites users, for the sale to remain. I think this option is makes much sense if, as Ayden observed, the board is unbendable in its wrong action. This stance of the board (confirmed by Sullivan's statements and those of other board members in some press articles) outrightly questions what my (and anyone else's) membership of ISOC means. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Is iSOC truly a membership organisation? This question needs to be answered convincingly, maybe after this clash, for one to choose to either continue or denounce membership.<br /></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div><br /></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div>On Dec 7, 2019, at 08:13, Sheetal Kumar <<a href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all, <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks for weighing in.
Everyone agrees that transparency is what we must ask for, at a minimum but there seems to be general agreement that this isn't enough to ask for.
I get the impression that there are two approaches suggested here: 1) an approach that accepts the deal is going ahead and asking for PIR to be incorporated as a benefit corporation 2) asking for a halt/suspension to the sale unless certain conditions are met. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Opinions seem to weigh in more on the second approach but I suggest we hold a poll to ascertain which path to go down and then go with that. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Best<br /></div><div>Sheetal<br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 20:47, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thank you Imran, I do appreciate your edits, comments, and questions.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>It's not that I am comfortable with this deal. I suspect it will be a disaster.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I just do not believe we will be able to persuade ISOC to change its decision here.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>All of the comments that I have seen individual ISOC Trustees make indicate a low level of understanding of the difference between a non-profit entity and a for-profit entity.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>They see PIR as an asset to be sold, like an office building, and believe the financial sustainability of ISOC is more important than meeting the public interest elements of their charter.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I also see a deep belief in technological determinism in many of their comments.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>So I was trying to be as pragmatic as possible in what I was proposing.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>If this deal is happening, and ISOC doesn't seem to be backing down (nor in their evaluation do they believe criticism is sincerely held by anyone but a small number of individuals), then I think we need to put pressure on the Board to condition the sale on there being certain protections in place for registrants.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>PIR is transitioning into a for-profit company. I think that ISOC may have already petitioned the Orphans Court in Pennsylvania for this to happen. Ethos Capital will have a fiduciary duty to its shareholders, and it will be required to increase wholesale costs on .ORG domain names to fulfil that obligation. While their CEO has said they have no intention of operating PIR differently going forward, this is not consistent with his fiduciary duty. His role is to maximize shareholder value for Ethos Capital and act in the best interest of the corporation – not .ORG registrants.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>The only way we can be assured that they consider more than just the fiduciary interests of the corporation is to have PIR incorporated as a real benefit corporation (NOT a B Lab B Certification, which is what we are being offered at the moment). I think that is the best thing we can ask for at present.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>If PIR is a benefit corporation, this cannot be reversed, even if PIR is subsequently sold by Ethos Capital, and so we have long-term assurances that PIR will be legally obliged to consider societal impacts as well as fiduciary ones. But a B Lab B Certification can be dropped at any time if Ethos Capital so desires.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>ISOC's Board does not seem willing to rise to the occasion and to consider what is in the interests of the broader non-profit, non-governmental organization, and non-commercial communities. The Board is not in listening mode, they are just being defensive. I don't see that changing unfortunately, and I see no way to compel ISOC to listen to us. It is not a membership-based organization, it is essentially an independent trust. There are serious governance deficiencies that we need to attempt to address there in the future, particularly as the organization absorbs $1.135 billion. But the Board wants the money, and unless someone else steps forward offering more, they seem unwilling to change their mind.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>If that's the case, I regretfully feel like we have to ask for what little we can get in order to try to minimize the harm that is likely to accrue to .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG registrants.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Best wishes,<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Ayden Férdeline<br /></div><div> <br /></div><div><div><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br /></div><div>On Friday, 6 December 2019 13:17, Imran Ahmed Shah <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br /></div><div><br /></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Dear Sheetal, <br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">I agree with the Ian Peter. We needs the point to weigh-in our statement.<br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">I have some queries, suggestions and recommendations on the initial draft of Ayden and copying hereunder. <br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span>Few comments:</span><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><span></span><span><span><span></span>I think </span>we should not evaluate Public Interest in terms of Money.... in any case...</span><br /></div><div dir="ltr">We should not to be more concerned with the financial figures. <br /></div><div dir="ltr">Perhaps, we may be concerned if it is being discussed in reference of the
ICANN's decision and reasoning behind handing over the dotOrg to ISOC 'to
support recurring expenses etc.'.. and now, if the ISOC has gotten enough
benefits out of it,......dotORG should have to be returned to ICANN, so that ICANN can handover to
some other similar not-for-profit trustworthy, credible organizations working for Public Interests, having the capacity to over see the Internet in Public domain and public interest.... to
benefit next one after ISOC.... <br /></div><div><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Secondly, our goal is
the protection of dotOrg from going it into the hand of commercial and
nonpublic interest companies even if they could be able to recruiting, the hundreds
of the CS members or can <span>employee (or buy in some in-kind trade) </span>..to address public interests to claim.some kind of <span>notional support board.</span>.. <br /></div><div><br /></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I also suggest to create etherpad document... just created with the points shared by you... <a href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/IGConPIRv0NiRaxk3qi-keep" rel="nofollow">https://pad.riseup.net/p/IGCon<wbr>PIRv0NiRaxk3qi-keep</wbr></a></span><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div><span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = <span> <span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = =</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br /></div><div><span><span></span></span><span></span><br /></div></div><div dir="ltr"> <i><span style="color:black">To: Gonzalo Camarillo,
Chair of the Board of Trustees, Internet Society</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt"></span><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt"></span><i><span style="color:black">As members of a network
which encompasses many non-commercial organizations and public interest
technologists, we are concerned by the announcement that Ethos Capital is
acquiring the assets of the Public Interest Registry (PIR) from the Internet
Society (ISOC), including the .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG Registry Agreements. </span></i><span style="font-size:12pt"></span><br /></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><i><span style="color:black">Principally, we are
concerned that the sale of PIR to a private entity will significantly alter the
Domain Name System and weaken ISOC. PIR played an important role, as the only
remaining non-commercial top-level domain registry operator, in serving as a
counterbalance against commercial exploitation. PIR ran .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG
for the benefit of its users, whereas other top-level domains are run by
private companies with purely financial objectives. While the interests of
companies and users do at times overlap, they can also conflict, and when this
occurs there are significant human rights implications. PIR, as a subsidiary of
ISOC, could be relied upon to do what was best for domain name registrants, and
has a proud history of doing just that. However, PIR also gave ISOC legitimacy
and influence. It allowed ISOC to take an active role in shaping Internet
infrastructure </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS:
suggest to add here… “keeping the Public Interest Intact”]</span></i><i><span style="color:black">. In relinquishing its control
over PIR, ISOC loses its ability to directly impact how millions of people
around the world positively experience the Internet every day, and we think
that is a great pity.</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt"></span><br /></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><i><span style="color:black">This is a significant
change, for ISOC and for the Internet community, and we are not yet satisfied
that there are appropriate safeguards in place to protect the interests of
.ORG, .NGO, and .ONG registrants and the people who visit their websites every
day. <u>You have the ability to put requests to Ethos Capital and to call this
deal off if appropriate and binding safeguards cannot be put in place</u></span></i><i><span style="color:rgb(255, 192, 0)">.</span></i><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: it very polite, humble request
or perhaps diplomatic sentence/phrase. Which will result a simple answer “thanks
for your deep concerns but we do not feel it appropriate at this stage the take
the deal off”, the same I have listen from ICANN Chair in 2009]</span></i><i><span style="color:black"> We encourage you to do just that.</span></i><i><span style="color:red"> [IAS: What to do, to stop the deal
or what is appropriate? Need to change this sentence and to be specific result
that we are recommending or demanding] </span></i><i><span style="color:black">As a sign of good faith, we ask that ISOC have Ethos Capital
commit to incorporating PIR as a benefit corporation. </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: again we are allowing them to
proceed with the deal and seeking the alteration of the terms, rules/bylaws and
commitment of a commercial entity to keep this public interest entity protected
as a benefit organization…? Secondly, believing and understanding that the Investor
“Ethos Capital” has invested the PIR to convert in B-Corp/ commercial entity
how we assume that he will be accepting when he has investing billions..] </span></i><i><span style="color:black">We understand that Ethos Capital
has said they are evaluating becoming a B Lab B Corp, but this is not the same
thing as a benefit corporation and is instead a non-binding certification. </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: I suggest that we should use
it as a proof that Ethos Capital has intention to transform the public interest
entity into a B-Corp/ commercial entity. In the same context, we should ask ‘the
Board’ that is this ‘intention’ was in their knowledge or in the knowledge of decision
maker bodies that this faith base public interest entity will be commercialized
by the new investor? If, yes, how they accepted it?]</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><i><u><span style="color:black">Large
parts of the world</span></u></i><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: I suggest that here we have to
use other terms which has higher weightage (weigh-in); e.g. one of the ISOC/PIR
representative has responded like this “the objections are not reported from
the majority of users, which means the majority of the users has no concern who
is running the registry”]</span></i><i><span style="color:black"> are uncomfortable with the Internet being governed entirely by
commercial interests, and <u>many of our members</u> </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: I suggest that we have to elaborate
“the members”, e.g IGC Members, IGC coalition Partners or perhaps including CSCG] </span></i><i><span style="color:black">are
deeply uncomfortable with PIR being sold at all. However, incorporation as a
benefit corporation could provide a sturdier path forward if ISOC does proceed
to sell the assets of PIR, and could be </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: I suggest rephrase “Could have been assured”] </span></i><i><span style="color:black">an effective means of mitigating
against some of the risks that we can foresee emerging from this sale. A
benefit corporation in the right jurisdiction would require the publication of
comprehensive, credible, independent, and transparent annual reports on social
impact and, most importantly, require the organization to consider benefits to
the public in addition to profit when decisions are being made. And, it would
oblige Ethos Capital to honor the promises and commitments it is making today.</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt"></span><br /></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><i><span style="color:black">We trust that you
understand why this is important to us. Ethos Capital is an unknown entity, and
in the absence of clear information about their motives behind acquiring PIR
and their sales pitch to investors, the non-profit and non-governmental
communities require assurances that the future of the .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG
domain names that we use for our email, websites, campaigns, and fundraising
efforts are in safe hands. </span></i><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: I suggest add these lines here “Our Data & Privacy is not
being compromised, shared, observed, monitored are not shared or sold to the competitors
(right now during transition or) in future by the Registry, or partner
commercial/ noncommercial entities”] </span></i><i><span style="color:black">These are more than just domains, they are symbols of our desire
to do good.</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt"></span><br /></p><div dir="ltr"><span><span><span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = </span></span></span></span><span> <span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = </span></span></span></span><span> <span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = </span></span></span></span><span> <span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = </span></span></span></span> </span><br /></div><p><i><span style="color:red">[IAS: I
also have few more concerns:</span></i><br /></p><p><i><span style="color:red"><span>1.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">Needs transparency and disclosure of
the followings (to re-establish of the trust being shacked):</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"><span>i.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">the reasoning behind the selling PIR
‘out of the way’ (as apparently seems to me)?,</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"><span>ii.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">the reasoning behind the avoidance
of engaging a proper bidding?,</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"><span>iii.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">the reasoning to giving sole power
of decision of sales without the evaluation through open competition and
opening comments to sell or not?,</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"><span>iv.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">the information of intention disclosure
regarding the commercialization aspect or transformation of PIR to B-Corp, when
it came in to the knowledge of the selling bodies (prior/during/post sales
agreement).</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"><span>v.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">Technical Terms and basis of the Technical
Evaluations of the Investor Ability, Capability, Credibility, Dependability.</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"><span>vi.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">Safeguards evaluated in terms of
Public Interest, Faith, Data Protection, Privacy, Security evaluated before
making the decision of sales of PIR (.ORG/.NGO/.ONG)</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><i><span style="color:red"> </span></i><br /></p><p><i><span style="color:red"><span>2.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span></i><span dir="LTR"></span><i><span style="color:red">I would suggest that the statement
should be in the following format:</span></i><br /></p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Preamble</span><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">/</span><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Preface paragraph:</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Objection/Obligation/Concerns</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">What we demand:</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:36pt;text-indent:36pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Our First Requirement is:</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:72pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Requirement of Information (e.g Transparency, Disclosure of
deal/ agreement/ technical/ functional/ organizational structural design/basis/planning)</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:36pt;text-indent:36pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Our Second Requirement is:</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:90pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)"><span>A.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">The above facts and figures demand you to stop/end-up the due diligence
process and stop the deal.</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:90pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">If the efforts for A are
convincingly & persuasively exercised and but could not achieving required
goal-A, we recommends to achieve minimal goal-B after the adoption of above….</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:90pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)"><span>B.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">What we need if the Sales Deal is accomplished, i.e. ensure the commitment</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:126pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)"><span>a.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">Immediate commitment (prior to sale),</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:126pt"><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)"><span>b.<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:7pt"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:rgb(112, 48, 160)">long term commitment (after sales),</span><br /></p><p style="margin-left:126pt"><i><span style="color:red">(by the way I am not
convinced that a commercial organization remains commitment for public interest
for long term benefits. Maximum commitments one can expect is just for 2-3
years not beyond. Secondly, if the Ethos Capital sales this entity to any other
commercial entity after changing its status to B-Corp, where the agreements with
ISOC stands?)</span></i><br /></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"> = = = = = = =<span> <span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = </span></span></span></span><span> <span>= = = = <span><span>= = =</span></span></span><span><span> = = = =</span></span><span><span><span> = = = = </span></span></span></span><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Best Regards<br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Imran Ahmed Shah<br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">[TLDians/UISoc/UiCouncil]<br /></div><div><br /></div></div><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><div>On Friday, 6 December 2019, 01:13:59 GMT+5, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><div><div><div>I agree approach and basic points Sheetal - but I would drop the human rights clause because it is contentious and does not add great value to the strong basic argument.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Ian<br /></div><div><br /></div><div><div>------ Original Message ------<br /></div><div>From: "Sheetal Kumar" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>><br /></div><div>To: "parminder" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" rel="nofollow">parminder@itforchange.net</a>><br /></div><div>Cc: "governance" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>><br /></div><div>Sent: 6/12/2019 6:48:38 AM<br /></div><div>Subject: Re: [governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale<br /></div><div><br /></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Ayden, Parminder, all, <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>First, thank you very much Ayden for putting this together! I appreciate the attempt to reconcile opposing views, which are clearly present in the IGC. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I would just say that we have heard from very few others on this list. This may be for any number of reasons, and we could do a poll if its helpful to gather views, including whether people feel they need more information to be able to weigh in. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>To move forward, if we can agree on the following key points that we need to get across, we can work together on editing/finalising text. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Short of a poll, if everyone could weigh-in on whether they agree on these points that would be helpful. <br /></div><div><br /></div><ul><li>There is a need for greater transparency about the terms of the sale<br /></li><li>There are potential implications for human rights if the sale goes through (need to list/clearly enumerate these)<br /></li><li>As a result, many members of IGC align themselves with the statements from EFF and Access Now and the call for an outright halt to the sale.<br /></li><li>At a minimum, all IGC members agree there is a need for greater transparency regarding the terms and potential implications of this sale, and that there are appropriate safeguards in place to protect the interests of .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG registrants and the people who visit their websites every day<br /></li></ul><div><br /></div><div>It's difficult to get consensus at best of times, but this is a tricky issue and if we want to put forward something together we might need to go with what we can all agree on at a top-level. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I look forward to hearing from a wide-range of people, and if anyone has alternative ideas please let us know.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Best<br /></div><div>Sheetal<br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 08:12, parminder <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" rel="nofollow">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p><span style="font-family:Verdana">thanks for this effort Ayden</span><br /></p><p><span style="font-family:Verdana">But when there is such a strong 'stop the
sale' movement out there, it will be embarrassing for the IG
related civil society groups to say, well, at least let Ethos
now behave when ISOC did not .... Why ask Ethos to set PIR as a
benefit corporation (which they will certainly not) when the
existing arrangement (since the sale is not through) is itself
more satisfactory? Why not ask for status quo and stopping the
sale?</span><br /></p><p><span style="font-family:Verdana">parminder </span><br /></p><div>On 04/12/19 6:01 PM, Ayden Férdeline
wrote:<br /></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div>Dear all,<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>I have a new proposed statement that I hope we may consider
issuing. Please see below. I have used Sheetal's language as a
starting point (thank you!) but I am afraid I did change the
messaging quite a bit. This is just a suggestion and please do
feel free to edit it to pieces. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Like Brett, I too would prefer we advocate for stopping the
sale altogether, but in the spirit of compromise and given a
number of posts on this list that seem supportive of the sale,
I've tried a different approach here. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks and best wishes,<br /></div><div>Ayden Férdeline<br /></div><div><br /></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><i><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">To:</span></span></i></span></span><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><i><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></i></span></span><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><i><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">Gonzalo Camarillo, Chair of the
Board of Trustees, Internet Society</span></span></i></span></span><br /></p><div><br /></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><i>As members of a network which
encompasses many non-commercial organizations and
public interest technologists, we are concerned by the
announcement that Ethos Capital is acquiring the
assets of the Public Interest Registry (PIR) from the
Internet Society (ISOC), including the .ORG, .NGO, and
.ONG Registry Agreements. </i></span></span></span></span><i></i><br /></p><div><i></i><br /></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><i>Principally, we are concerned
that the sale of PIR to a private entity will
significantly alter the Domain Name System and weaken
ISOC. PIR played an important role, as the only
remaining non-commercial top-level domain registry
operator, in serving as a counterbalance against
commercial exploitation. PIR ran .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG
for the benefit of its users, whereas other top-level
domains are run by private companies with purely
financial objectives. While the interests of companies
and users do at times overlap, they can also conflict,
and when this occurs there are significant human
rights implications. PIR, as a subsidiary of ISOC,
could be relied upon to do what was best for domain
name registrants, and has a proud history of doing
just that. However, PIR also gave ISOC legitimacy and
influence. It allowed ISOC to take an active role in
shaping Internet infrastructure. In relinquishing its
control over PIR, ISOC loses its ability to directly
impact how millions of people around the world
positively experience the Internet every day, and we
think that is a great pity.</i></span></span></span></span><i></i><br /></p><div><i></i><br /></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><i>This is a significant change,
for ISOC and for the Internet community, and we are
not yet satisfied that there are appropriate
safeguards in place to protect the interests of .ORG,
.NGO, and .ONG registrants and the people who visit
their websites every day. You have the ability to put
requests to Ethos Capital and to call this deal off if
appropriate and binding safeguards cannot be put in
place. We encourage you to do just that. As a sign of
good faith, we ask that ISOC have Ethos Capital commit
to incorporating PIR as a benefit corporation. We
understand that Ethos Capital has said they are
evaluating becoming a B Lab B Corp, but this is not
the same thing as a benefit corporation and is instead
a non-binding certification. </i></span></span></span></span><i></i><br /></p><div><i></i><br /></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><i>Large parts of the world are
uncomfortable with the Internet being governed
entirely by commercial interests, and many of our
members are deeply uncomfortable with PIR being sold
at all. However, incorporation as a benefit
corporation could provide a sturdier path forward if
ISOC does proceed to sell the assets of PIR, and could
be an effective means of mitigating against some of
the risks that we can foresee emerging from this sale.
A benefit corporation in the right jurisdiction would
require the publication of comprehensive, credible,
independent, and transparent annual reports on social
impact and, most importantly, require the organization
to consider benefits to the public in addition to
profit when decisions are being made. And, it would
oblige Ethos Capital to honor the promises and
commitments it is making today.</i></span></span></span></span><i></i><br /></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><i> </i></span></span></span></span><i></i><br /></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span style="font-family:Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt"><i>We trust that you understand
why this is important to us. Ethos Capital is an
unknown entity, and in the absence of clear
information about their motives behind acquiring PIR
and their sales pitch to investors, the non-profit and
non-governmental communities require assurances that
the future of the .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG domain names
that we use for our email, websites, campaigns, and
fundraising efforts are in safe hands. These are more
than just domains, they are symbols of our desire to
do good.</i></span></span></span></span><br /></p><div><div><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br /></div><div>On Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:44, Sheetal Kumar <a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow"><sheetal@gp-digital.org></a> wrote:<br /></div><div><br /></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Ayden, all, <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks for your responses! It seems to me that if we're
going to agree on anything, it's the lack of transparency
that we can agree needs to be rectified. I've slightly
reworded the below in light of the recent suggestions and
remarks.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>What do others think about Sylvain's suggestions of
asking about setting up a commons PIR (is this
possible/feasible?) and of sending this also to ISOC's BoT
and CEO? Do you have any others? <br /></div><div><br /></div><div><div><span></span><br /></div><div><i>As members of a network which encompasses many
non-commercial organisations, we are concerned about
the lack of transparency regarding the sale of .ORG.
When the board discusses the sale of .org, we request
that these questions are considered in the due
diligence process: </i><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><i>- What does the Board intend to do in order to
protect the existing millions of .ORG registrants?<br clear="none" /> - After the changes to the .ORG contract to preserve
existing rights of
.ORG registrants, how else does the Board intend to
ensure the sale of PIR (this new steward of .org) will
act on behalf of the public interest and the
world community of noncommercial, civil society groups
in the world?<br clear="none" /> - What are ICANN's obligation to protect those
organizations engaged in missions of "public interest
around the world?" <br clear="none" /> <span>- How does the Board respond to
allegations/concerns regarding possible conflict
of interest in transference of stewardship to Ethos
capital?</span></i></div><div><i><span></span></i><br /></div><div><i><span>We request answers to these questions in the
spirit of building trust among NGOs and the
non-commercial constituency more generally and those
who play a key role in stewarding the Internet.</span></i><br /></div><div><span></span><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 at 17:58, Ayden Férdeline
<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com" rel="nofollow">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>While I agree these are questions for the ISOC Board of
Trustees, I believe they are *also* questions for the
ICANN Board. I expect that the ICANN Board will not
respond to them, but I think they could - and should - and
I encourage us to place pressure on both parties to take
these questions and the sentiments behind them seriously.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>ICANN, in particular, does need to address at least the
perception that there is a revolving door of insiders who
are behind this and other deals. And ISOC needs to be more
transparent about what due diligence it did before
entering into the arrangement to sell PIR, and what
mechanisms it has put in place (if any) to protect .ORG,
.NGO, and .ONG registrants. Thanks.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline<br /></div><div> <br /></div><div><div><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br /></div><div>On Saturday, 30 November 2019 13:34, James Gannon <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" rel="nofollow">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>
wrote:<br /></div><div><br /></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div>These are questions for the ISOC Board not the ICANN
board.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br /></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div>On 30 Nov 2019, at 13:09, Sheetal Kumar <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>>
wrote:<br /></div><div><br /></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div> <br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all, <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>What do people think about sending a letter to
the ICANN Board with a series of questions in
order to get more transparency? Bruna and I
discussed this, and chatted to others, and are
wondering what you think of this approach. As the
Board will meet and discuss the sale as part of a
due diligence process, we thought it might be a
constructive approach to request they consider and
answer certain questions. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>It would be great to hear your views on this
approach and on the questions. See below: <br /></div><div><br /></div><div><div><span></span><br /></div><div><i>When the board discusses the sale of
.org, we request that these questions are
considered in the due diligence process: </i><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><i>- What does the Board intend to do in
order to protect the existing millions of .ORG
registrants?<br clear="none" /> - After the changes to the .ORG contract to
preserve existing rights of .ORG registrants,
how else does the Board intend to ensure the
sale of PIR (this new steward of .org) will
act on behalf of the public interest and the
world community of noncommercial, civil
society groups in the world?<br clear="none" /> - What's ICANN's obligation to protect those
organizations engaged in missions of "public
interest around the world?" <br clear="none" /> <span>- How does the Board respond to
allegations/concerns regarding possible
conflict of interest in transference of
stewardship to Ethos capital</span></i></div><div><span></span><br /></div><div><span>Best</span><br /></div><div><span>Sheetal</span><i><span></span></i><br /></div></div></div><div><br /></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 02:36, Sylvain
Baya <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>>
wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi all,<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Le jeudi 28 novembre 2019, Bill Woodcock <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:woody@pch.net" rel="nofollow">woody@pch.net</a>> a
écrit :<br /></div><div><br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>> they can (even without sourcing their
affirmation) then note that the<br /></div><div>> minority of *non-commercial* [1]
Internet Community is about to be *eliminated*
by their<br /></div><div>> 'well intended' *big deal*.<br /></div><div>> <br /></div><div>> Why ?<br /></div><div>> ...i guess that 1% of 10M (domain
names) +=> the non-commercial [1] world is
under<br /></div><div>> the pressure of commercial world in
the Internet, even in .ORG registrations they
are<br /></div><div>> still oppressed by 99% of 10M<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>None of the above parses. Please try
again, with simpler construction. You can
break it out into as many sentences as you
like, but please try to make each one
encapsulate exactly one thought. Else nobody
is going to be able to engage in a
constructive conversation with you.<br /></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>...what's the point please, dear Bill ?<br /></div><div>Do you really want to convince me without
argumenting ?<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Shalom,<br /></div><div>--sb.<br /></div><div> <br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br /></div><div> -Bill<br /></div><div><br /></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>--<br /></div><div><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div><span></span><br /></div><div><div><div><span></span><br /></div><div><br /></div></div><div dir="ltr">--<br /></div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:10px">Best
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(0)20 3 818
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