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    <p>HI Ayden,</p>
    <p>Thanks for the explanation but I do not think this is likely. I
      think it would violate the new who is policy</p>
    <p>Judith<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/2019 9:00 PM, Ayden Férdeline
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      <div>Hi Judith,<br>
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      <div>Thanks for your question. Here's an example of a human rights
        concern that I see with the proposed sale of PIR to Ethos
        Capital:<br>
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      <div>Firstly, it has been <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
          title="https://www.keypointsabout.org/" target="_blank"
          href="https://www.keypointsabout.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">acknowledged</a>
        that Fadi Chehade’s company, Chehade & Company, is an
        adviser to Ethos Capital.<br>
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      <div><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
          title="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/"
          target="_blank"
          href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/"
          moz-do-not-send="true"><i>The Register </i>has<i> </i>reported</a>
        that Mr Chehade himself was seen at PIR's office last week
        during a meet-and-greet with PIR's staff.<br>
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      <div>Mr Chehade is <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
title="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/18/ex_icann_ceo_will_work_with_china/"
          target="_blank"
href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/18/ex_icann_ceo_will_work_with_china/"
          moz-do-not-send="true">co-chair of the advisory committee</a>
        to the World Internet Conference in Wuzhen, and has other
        business dealings in China.<br>
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      <div>Could .ORG registrants in China be assured, once Ethos
        Capital takes
        ownership of PIR, that if the Chinese government requested the
        contact
        information of a .ORG registrant, that Mr Chehade would not
        instruct
        Ethos Capital to do as the Chinese government wishes? <br>
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      <div>I think this is an area of divergence where a PIR under
        ISOC's management may behave differently to a PIR owned by a
        company whose advisor has
        strong business interests in China. It's a theoretical example
        and I want to be careful about 'guilt by association', but I
        think there is a real risk here that a venture capital company
        is not going to care so much about the interests of their
        customers as a non-profit might. (Mind you, ISOC has not
        demonstrated much concern for them lately either, but that's a
        different issue...)<br>
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      <div>Best wishes,<br>
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          <div>Ayden Férdeline <br>
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      <div> On Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:54, Judith Hellerstein
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        <p>HI Sheetal and Aiden<br>
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        <p>While I agree with points 1 and 4 I do not understand what
          are the implications on human rights and not sure I agree with
          this statement. I also definitely do not agree with point 4<br>
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          <li>There are potential implications for human rights if the
            sale goes through (need to list/clearly enumerate these)<br>
          </li>
          <li>As a result, many members of IGC align themselves with the
            statements from EFF and Access Now and the call for an
            outright halt to the sale.<br>
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        <p>Judith<br>
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Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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          <li>There are potential implications for human rights if the
            sale goes through (need to list/clearly enumerate these)<br>
          </li>
          <li>As a result, many members of IGC align themselves with the
            statements from EFF and Access Now and the call for an
            outright halt to the sale.<br>
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