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<div>ISOC is not constituted in a way that it has to develop multistakeholder approaches for all its processes; to begin with, it is not structured around stakeholder groups. </div>
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<div>What counts is its track record and ongoing participation in building up multistakeholder proceses where applicable, and its experience in helping structure each of them according to purpose, membership, and resources; that record is pretty good. Long
ago - a decade or so - we developed a WSIS-o-meter and the mechanisms in which ISOC has taken part in design and/or operation graded way above any other.</div>
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<div>Let me again suggest that people look at what we now call multistakeholder processes in fields other than Internet governance for a better understanding. </div>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 18 de noviembre de 2019 21:44<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> abscoco@gmail.com; IGCaucus<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?<br>
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<div>Hi Sylvain,</div>
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<div>I dont think the Internet Society has any inclusive, multistakeholder or bottom up approach. I don't think it even pretends to any more.</div>
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<div>But perhaps things might change, we live in hope.</div>
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<div>For anyone who is not aware of the recent sale of the Public Interest Registry by ISOC to a for profit venture capital company, happy to provide some references. It is being discussed in a few places, perhaps a response here might be appropriate as well
(but please start a new topic!)</div>
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<div>From: "Sylvain Baya" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>To: "IGCaucus" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 18/11/2019 11:16:42 PM</div>
<div>Subject: [governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite2">Hi all,
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<div>Hope you are well.<br>
<div>...i'm following this thread from the beginning and, i found it instructive. So thanks to y'all !</div>
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<div>I want to add more variance (<i>maybe off-topic; then i apologize</i>), if allowed, please :-)</div>
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<div>...so, question : </div>
<div>What about the implementation of inclusiveness/multistakeholder, <i>and bottom-up approach, </i>by </div>
<div>InternetSociety.ORG ?</div>
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<div>Thanks.</div>
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<div>Shalom,</div>
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Le lundi 4 novembre 2019, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
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<div>Yes, the discussion sure has varied, but lots of interesting inputs.</div>
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<div>I found Miltons history of multistakeholderism quite interesting - in that the term was not invented to apply at a national level where presumably things were always going well, but was intended to apply to the global dimension where there was a presumed
problem.</div>
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<div>Nevertheless - how do we get civil society involved effectively at a national level? Lots of interesting examples here, but it would be great to pull out some best practice examples, or some principles for civil society involvement, that people could
use to suggest to their governments effective ways of doing things.</div>
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<div>From: "Andrés Piazza" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a></div>
<div>Cc: <a href="mailto:6.internet@gmail.com" target="_blank">6.internet@gmail.com</a>; "Izumi Aizu" <<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org" target="_blank">iza@anr.org</a>>; "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <<a href="mailto:TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg" target="_blank">TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg</a>>;
"CWCS (IGC)" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 4/11/2019 10:44:23 AM</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Despite the original purpose of this discussion has evolved, I still wanted to name the IXPs in Argentina with CABASE adding other stakeholders and, more recently, multisectorial Blockchain initiative
<a href="http://BFA.AR" target="_blank">BFA.AR</a> </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El dom., 3 nov. 2019 a las 13:18, Arsène Tungali (<<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>><wbr>) escribió:<br>
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