<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The other side of this question I was seeking to find out about is the possible effects, if any, of this step (resolution?) taken by the i* organizations on standard and protocol development as well as technology design. Is anyone aware of any sequels or impact, first in the work of the technical community and possibly beyond? For instance, there are now RFCs addressing guidelines for privacy and even human rights considerations: not sure whether there had ever been any such language in RFC development and whether this would have been possible before the Montevideo Statement (or the NSA surveillance scandal.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Mawaki</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-bottom:5px"><div style="overflow:hidden"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div></span></div><div><br></div></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></div><div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></div></div></span></div></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:05 PM Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks, Anriette! It seems that my memory was just giving this Statement more than it actually holds.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Mawaki</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="font-size:12.8px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-bottom:5px"><div style="overflow:hidden"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div></span></div></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 10:48 PM Anriette Esterhuysen <<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Your memory is fine, Mawaki. It was the Montevideo Statement:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-10-07-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-10-07-en</a></p>
<p><a href="https://ccdcoe.org/incyder-articles/montevideo-statement-and-global-government-surveillance-reform-responses-to-government-surveillance-activities/" target="_blank">https://ccdcoe.org/incyder-articles/montevideo-statement-and-global-government-surveillance-reform-responses-to-government-surveillance-activities/</a></p>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I seem to
remember that in the aftermath of the NSA surveillance scandal
(pre-NETmundial), the i* organizations got together and put
out a statement that seemed to recognize for the first time
that technology is not purely "agnostic" with regard to social
values (e.g., rights that we think should be valued in the
kind of society we want to live in) and that those values need
to be kept in mind in the work of technical standards
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Is my memory
being faulty here, or was there such a thing? Could anyone
point me to that declaration? And if this ever was, what has
become of it? As I was searching I came across the Montevideo
statement but it doesn't appear to specifically address the
issue above.</div>
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