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Hi all,<br>
<br>
I would just second what a number of folks have said, which is that
while I respect and appreciate the historical origins, I think there
are national contexts in which multi-stakeholder Internet policy
making can be both appropriate and legitimate. <br>
<br>
Certainly the cross-territorial nature of the Internet is one of the
earliest and most enduring challenges to coordinated policy-making
in this space, and multi-stakeholder policy making is an important
component in trying to address that, but there are other recurring
challenges such as the need for flexible policies that don't
necessarily align 100% with current law or should not be applied
with the rigour of law, or where the technical nature of the problem
requires more nuanced engagement than you can get in some
traditional government-led settings. <br>
<br>
I would say the same for the 'in their respective roles' vs 'on
equal footing' debate.... There's certainly going to be situations
where you need a government(s) led process, particularly where
implementation relies on entities voluntarily adopting measures that
are counter to their own interests (which is something ICANN has at
least made an attempt to get around). But in other contexts, having
a venue where government actors can provide the government
perspective but not have the last say can also lead to effective and
legitimate outcomes, including at the national level. <br>
<br>
I think it's an enduring irony that in these contexts it's still
civil society, rather than governments, who often ends up
representing individual interests most aggressively, but that does
still seem to be the prevailing tendency.... <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tamir<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-11-03 8:13 p.m., Dr. Alejandro
Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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<div>you may find useful my chapter on multistakeholder
governance in <a
href="https://www.apc.org/sites/default/files/IG_10_Final.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.apc.org/sites/default/files/IG_10_Final.pdf</a><a
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<div>p. 189 ff. Multistakeholder governance is used in many
fields, like sports, finance, the environment, etc. The
involvement, roles, responsiblities and "teeth" of these
mechanisms vary widely across issues, places, time, and
stakeholder groups. To quote from the conclusions, </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"It is a laboratory for many other fields of endeavour. The
complexity of the organizations varies enormously according
to, among other factors, the “bindingness” of the agreements.
Organizations such as ICANN, which intermediate numerous
complex relationships among players who have a whole industry
at stake, and whose resolutions may be binding for the parties
in the form of policies and signed contracts, require complex
rule-making procedures, mechanisms for review and potentially
reversal and redress of decisions, as well as dealing with
their own processes. More open, less binding processes, like
the Internet Governance Forum, or smaller, focused
organizations like APWG may operate with simpler rule books. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The need for oversight of process and decisions may be
satisfied internally and may or may not appear sufficient to
third parties. The more organizations learn to manage the risk
of undue oversight the less energy they will have to devote to
self-defence and the more they will have available for their
core function."</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A recent, specific case is national cybersecurity
strategies. Shears and Kasper have a nice paper out, <a
href="https://www.gp-digital.org/publication/multistakeholder-approaches-to-national-cybersecurity-strategy-development/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.gp-digital.org/publication/multistakeholder-approaches-to-national-cybersecurity-strategy-development</a><a
href="https://www.gp-digital.org/publication/multistakeholder-approaches-to-national-cybersecurity-strategy-development"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.gp-digital.org/publication/multistakeholder-approaches-to-national-cybersecurity-strategy-development</a> which
applies to the national level. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It is an uphill struggle no doubt. In many Internet-related
issues the technical community, civil society, and business
find themselves more or less on the same side at least in the
first-order approximation (the side of innovation, openness,
universality, and other Internet principles) vis-a-vis
government, so strategy and tactics require both recognizing
the affinities and differentiating in order not to do
business's dirty work. Surprisingly, the advocacy for a strict
separation of "in their respective roles" ends up siding with
governments and intergovernmental institutions, even for
organizations that have sought independence or stood in
opposition to them for decades. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yours,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> domingo, 03 de noviembre de 2019
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<b>Asunto:</b> Re[2]: [governance] Good examples of
muiltistakeholder policy development at a national
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<div>Yes, the discussion sure has varied, but lots of
interesting inputs.</div>
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<div>I found Miltons history of multistakeholderism quite
interesting - in that the term was not invented to apply
at a national level where presumably things were always
going well, but was intended to apply to the global
dimension where there was a presumed problem.</div>
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<div>Nevertheless - how do we get civil society involved
effectively at a national level? Lots of interesting
examples here, but it would be great to pull out some
best practice examples, or some principles for civil
society involvement, that people could use to suggest
to their governments effective ways of doing things.</div>
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<div>Ian</div>
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<div>From: "Andrés Piazza" <<a
href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a></div>
<div>Cc: <a href="mailto:6.internet@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">6.internet@gmail.com</a>;
"Izumi Aizu" <<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">iza@anr.org</a>>;
"Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <<a
href="mailto:TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg</a>>;
"CWCS (IGC)" <<a
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<div>Sent: 4/11/2019 10:44:23 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [governance] Good examples of
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Despite
the original purpose of this discussion has
evolved, I still wanted to name the IXPs in
Argentina with CABASE adding other stakeholders
and, more recently, multisectorial Blockchain
initiative <a href="http://BFA.AR"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">BFA.AR</a> </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Andrés<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El dom., 3 nov.
2019 a las 13:18, Arsène Tungali (<<a
href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>>)
escribió:<br>
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0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex"> Hi all,<br>
<br>
This is a good discussion, thanks Ian for asking.<br>
<br>
In the Democratic Republic of the Congo, there is
no formal process<br>
but different groups try to lobby legislators the
way they can and<br>
send them inputs. At some point in the years, this
was not even<br>
possible for most civil society groups to come
together and work on an<br>
input to be sent on a specific matter under
discussion.<br>
<br>
Rudi International, the non-profit I lead was able
to come together<br>
last year and gather inputs on an ICT bill that
was under discussion<br>
at Senate level (and actually is still). You have
details here on how<br>
we did this: <a
href="https://rudiinternational.org/2018/07/20/the-congolese-senate-received-inputs-to-the-telecom-and-ict-draft-bill/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://rudiinternational.org/2018/07/20/the-congolese-senate-received-inputs-to-the-telecom-and-ict-draft-bill/</a><br>
<br>
But it is worth to note that inputs from the
private sector are taken<br>
more seriously mostly because they have resources
to better lobby<br>
legislators more than civil society would do. The
later could benefit<br>
more with resources in order to have a strong
voice to make sure their<br>
inputs are being taken seriously.<br>
<br>
Hope this is helpful.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Arsene<br>
<br>
2019-11-02 18:04 UTC+03:00, sivasubramanian
muthusamy<br>
<<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>>:<br>
> Ian,<br>
><br>
> Where do we go from here? For some reason
Governments are rather slow to<br>
> embrace the multi-stakeholder process though
there are good signs of a good<br>
> start by some countries. Multi-stakeholder
process can swiftly and far more<br>
> effectively address's and resolve not only IG
concerns but general National<br>
> and global concerns with a stream of creative
solutions to problems<br>
> including the seemingly impossible governance
problems left unresolved over<br>
> centuries. What could the Multi-stakeholder
community do to impress upon<br>
> Governments on the value of the process, and
what could the Community do to<br>
> prompt swifter, wholehearted adoption with
the trust that the<br>
> Multi-stakeholder process wouldn't hurt?<br>
><br>
> Sivasubramanian M<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 10:01 AM Izumi AIZU <<a
href="mailto:iza@anr.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">iza@anr.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Well said, Peng Hwa, citing Lyndall from
SA government who chaired<br>
>> PrepCom<br>
>> 2 of UN WSIS that led WGIG which proposed
IGF, at a night when South<br>
>> Africa won Rugby World Cup against all
ids here in Japan.<br>
>><br>
>> IMHO, if IGF wants to remain relevant,
there should be a bold reform, say<br>
>> making from scratch. But I doubt most of
‘stake’ holders there don’t want<br>
>> to do that, exactly because they don’t
want to lose the very stake they<br>
>> got? Be it business, government, tech
community or civil society. It’s<br>
>> been<br>
>> so long since 2003 for WSIS or ICANN
since around 1997/8. Aging problem<br>
>> indeed.<br>
>><br>
>> Izumi<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2019年11月2日(土) 14:23 Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)
<<a href="mailto:TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi all.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Chipping in….<br>
>>><br>
>>> “in their respective roles”<br>
>>><br>
>>> It’s a bit of glass half-empty or
half-full perspective. Inserting “in<br>
>>> their respective roles” suggests that
civil society has a role. From one<br>
>>> perspective therefore, moving from
non-recognition to being recognised<br>
>>> as<br>
>>> having a role was a major deal. Hence
the phrase was accepted.<br>
>>><br>
>>> > And the IGF was created as a
forum in which all stakeholders could<br>
>>> discuss – but _*not*_ decide – issues<br>
>>><br>
>>> The problem with the IGF is not the
decision, which yes, any attempt to<br>
>>> arrive at that will be challenging to
say the least. The IGF mandate<br>
>>> includes the power to recommend. But
many business stakeholders in<br>
>>> particular did not want even that.
Yes, there are best practice fora but<br>
>>> for many government types, this is
(note present tense, from past<br>
>>> imperfect) not enough for their
bosses.<br>
>>><br>
>>> > I am interested to know of
examples of nation states that might have<br>
>>> reasonable to good practices for
involving civil society and the private<br>
>>> sector in internet related policy
development,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I suspect that it will be difficult
if not impossible to locate<br>
>>> “reasonable to good practices”. I am
reminded of a remark by Lyndall<br>
>>> Shope-Mafole <<a
href="https://www.wgig.org/docs/Bio-Mafole.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.wgig.org/docs/Bio-Mafole.html</a>>,
then<br>
>>> Chairperson, Presidential National
Commission on Information Society and<br>
>>> Development of South Africa,
Pretoria, at a WGIG meeting in which<br>
>>> someone<br>
>>> said that it was difficult for civil
society to effect policy. She said<br>
>>> that when you push, you must expect
pushback but then you must keep<br>
>>> pushing. And if you cannot do that,
you will not effect policy.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I have one example from Singapore.
(Just one. The Singapore Government<br>
>>> does so much of the policy work that
once when I told the passenger<br>
>>> sitting<br>
>>> next to me on a flight that I did
policy work, his response was: you<br>
>>> work<br>
>>> for the government?)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> This was the case of the movie Dallas
Buyers Club. Its business model<br>
>>> apparently includes sending illegal
downloaders lawyer’s letters<br>
>>> demanding<br>
>>> S$5,000 (US$3,500) for the download.
The ex-co of the Singapore Chapter<br>
>>> of<br>
>>> the Internet Society, many of whom
are lawyers, wrote an op-ed<br>
>>> <a
href="https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/dallas-buyers-club-case-threatening-subscribers-wont-stop-piracy"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/dallas-buyers-club-case-threatening-subscribers-wont-stop-piracy</a><br>
>>> calling<br>
>>> for some safeguards against the
practice. When the next cases, Queen of<br>
>>> the Desert (Nicole Kidman) and
Fathers & Daughters (Russell Crowe), did<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> same thing, the Attorney-General and
the IP Office stepped in<br>
>>> *<a
href="https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ipos-agc-seek-intervene-court-proceedings-alleged-illegal-movie-downloading-case"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ipos-agc-seek-intervene-court-proceedings-alleged-illegal-movie-downloading-case</a><br>
>>> <<a
href="https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ipos-agc-seek-intervene-court-proceedings-alleged-illegal-movie-downloading-case"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ipos-agc-seek-intervene-court-proceedings-alleged-illegal-movie-downloading-case</a>>*.<br>
>>> The court threw out the two cases<br>
>>> <a
href="https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/high-court-throws-out-hollywood-movie-piracy-case"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/high-court-throws-out-hollywood-movie-piracy-case</a><br>
>>> .<br>
>>><br>
>>> There was another happy ending: the
paper gave us $300 for the op-ed and<br>
>>> as just about the entire committee
had contributed to the op-ed, we had<br>
>>> a<br>
>>> satisfying lunch meeting.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ang Peng Hwa<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> *From: *<<a
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">governance-request@lists.riseup.net</a>>
on behalf of "Mueller,<br>
>>> Milton L" <<a
href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
>>> *Reply-To: *"Mueller, Milton L" <<a
href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
>>> *Date: *Saturday, 2 November 2019 at
10:57 AM<br>
>>> *To: *governance <<a
href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>><br>
>>> *Subject: *RE: [governance] Good
examples of muiltistakeholder policy<br>
>>> development at a national level?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Ian, David, Tamir:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sorry for my late entry into this
discussion.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> We need to understand the historical
context in which concepts such as<br>
>>> “in their respective roles” and
“equal footing” arose.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> In the first phase of WSIS,
governments insisted that global internet<br>
>>> policy could only be made by them.
That was their right exclusively,<br>
>>> they<br>
>>> believed, based on classic, 19th
century concepts of territorial<br>
>>> sovereignty. If you read the WSIS
Declaration you see the roles for<br>
>>> governments, civil society and the
private sector spelled out. Private<br>
>>> sector was supposed to be confined to
operational matters, and the role<br>
>>> of<br>
>>> civil society is so vague as to be
almost laughable, but it had<br>
>>> something<br>
>>> to do with local communities.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> The civil society and private sector
actors, on the other hand, wanted<br>
>>> equal status in global internet
governance. This was particularly true<br>
>>> of<br>
>>> those involved in ICANN, which was a
non-governmental governance<br>
>>> institution, in which governments not
only did not have the final say in<br>
>>> making policy, but actually were
confined to an advisory capacity.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> WSIS was a (not very coherent)
compromise in which multistakeholder<br>
>>> governance was formally recognized
and accepted, but (as a document<br>
>>> written<br>
>>> entirely by governments) said that
the different stakeholders had<br>
>>> different<br>
>>> “roles.” And the IGF was created as a
forum in which all stakeholders<br>
>>> could<br>
>>> discuss – but _*not*_ decide – issues
on an “equal footing.”<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> The division of labor called for by
“in their respective roles” never<br>
>>> really worked. ICANN went on about
its business, strengthening the role<br>
>>> of<br>
>>> governments but never elevating them
to the special status that the WSIS<br>
>>> resolutions wanted. GAC is still
advisory, and outside of ICANN, in<br>
>>> things<br>
>>> like the issue of cyber norms, we see
civil society and the private<br>
>>> sector<br>
>>> as influential as governments.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Internet governance is transnational
and the “public” it governs is<br>
>>> transnational, yet governments are
territorial. Internet governance does<br>
>>> not work by means of formal treaties
negotiated among territorial<br>
>>> sovereigns, for two reasons: 1)
because the governments cannot agree on<br>
>>> any<br>
>>> rules, and 2) in IG, operational and
technical matters are fully<br>
>>> integrated<br>
>>> with policy decisions so that private
sector really has a lot of the de<br>
>>> facto decision making power. Any
attempt to govern a globalized system<br>
>>> such<br>
>>> as the DNS based on territorial
sovereignty, for example, would threaten<br>
>>> the global compatibility of the
internet.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> The thing to understand here is that
multistakeholder governance, in<br>
>>> which national governments do NOT
hold the final say, is necessary for<br>
>>> cyberspace because cyberspace is
global, transnational. Multistakeholder<br>
>>> gov fills the gaps left by the
shortcomings of territorial governance.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Now, for you to ask, Ian, whether
“multistakeholder governance” or<br>
>>> “equal<br>
>>> footing” is needed or works at the
_*national*_ level kind of misses the<br>
>>> point of the whole debate over MS
that took place (and is still taking<br>
>>> place) around _*global*_ internet
governance. Of course at the national<br>
>>> level, you have a single sovereign
government and it is much less<br>
>>> problematic for national decisions to
be made under the framework of<br>
>>> traditional national governance. And
in democratic societies, there are<br>
>>> all kinds of consultations,
public-private partnerships, and power<br>
>>> sharing<br>
>>> arrangements but in the final
analysis the state is the decider at the<br>
>>> national level. The reason we’ve
moved away from that for global IG is<br>
>>> because there is no global sovereign.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> These issues are very close to the
theme of an IGF workshop I organized<br>
>>> along with Bill Drake. You can check
out the speakers and themes here:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a
href="https://igf2019.sched.com/event/8255ed1c308e604776fbb689d39138dd"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://igf2019.sched.com/event/8255ed1c308e604776fbb689d39138dd</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> *From:* <a
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
governance-request@lists.riseup.net</a> <<br>
>>> <a
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.riseup.net"
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*On Behalf Of *<br>
>>> <a
href="mailto:david_allen_ab63@post.harvard.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">david_allen_ab63@post.harvard.edu</a><br>
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>>> *To:* governance <<a
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] Good
examples of muiltistakeholder policy<br>
>>> development at a national level?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> How about "in their respective
roles"?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> David<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Ian
Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I am interested to know of examples
of nation states that might have<br>
>>> reasonable to good practices for
involving civil society and the private<br>
>>> sector in internet related policy
development, along the lines perhaps<br>
>>> of<br>
>>> the ancient WSIS definition of "on an
equal footing".<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Is anyone doing this this other than
in a token fashion? A few years ago<br>
>>> we had a good example with Brazil,
but a change of government changed<br>
>>> that.<br>
>>> What are our good examples now, or
don't they exist?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Ian<br>
>>><br>
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