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    I can speak a bit to the Canadian IoT initiative.<br>
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    This process was largely guided/hosted by ISOC, CIRA (our ccTLD) and
    ISED, which is our industry/innovation department. The process went
    really well, and the government participants definitely engaged on
    equal footing.<br>
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    There were also government officials, civil society reps and
    business reps in the actual working groups that drove most of the
    work. There too, it was definitely an equal footing exchange.<br>
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    Best regards,<br>
    Tamir<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-10-30 12:51 p.m., Joly MacFie
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The Canada
          IoT Security process, fostered by ISOC's NA Bureau, appeared
          to be a success <a href="https://iotsecurity2018.ca/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://iotsecurity2018.ca/</a> </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is video
          of Larry Strickling's introductory comments <a
            href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days08/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days08/</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Larry,
          incidentally, has left ISOC to work as Policy Director for US
          Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> joly<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:42
          PM Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div>I am interested to know of examples of nation states that
            might have reasonable to good practices for involving civil
            society and the private sector in internet related policy
            development, along the lines perhaps of the ancient WSIS
            definition of "on an equal footing".
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            <div>Is anyone doing this this other than in a token
              fashion? A few years ago we had a good example with
              Brazil, but a change of government changed that. What are
              our good examples now, or don't they exist?</div>
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            <div>Ian</div>
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