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<body><div>Thanks everyone who responded so far - I was interested to learn that we do have some reasonable examples of government co-operating with civil society and private sector in policy development: at a national level- and to learn that cgi.br is still alive.</div><div><br /></div><div>We can debate forever what terms like "multistakeholderism", "enhanced co-operation", "respective roles" and "equal footing" mean, but I remain convinced that the only path to effective cooperation on the complex policy issues we face with the evolving internet will be all parties working co-operatively on policy evolution - both within national borders, and also across these borders on a global basis.</div><div><br /></div><div>I should mention that my questions were prompted by attending Australia's Netthing event (<a href="https://netthing.org.au/" style="font-size: 12pt;">https://netthing.org.au/</a>). My impression after that was that the government here wanted to be seen to be co-operating with other stakeholders, but either was doing this in a tokenistic fashion or wasn't quite sure how to go about it. So some good examples from elsewhere might be very useful!</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Ian Peter</div>
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<div>From: "Tamir" <<a href="mailto:tisrael@cippic.ca">tisrael@cippic.ca</a>></div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?</div><div><br /></div>
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I can speak a bit to the Canadian IoT initiative.<br />
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This process was largely guided/hosted by ISOC, CIRA (our ccTLD) and
ISED, which is our industry/innovation department. The process went
really well, and the government participants definitely engaged on
equal footing.<br />
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There were also government officials, civil society reps and
business reps in the actual working groups that drove most of the
work. There too, it was definitely an equal footing exchange.<br />
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Best regards,<br />
Tamir<br />
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-10-30 12:51 p.m., Joly MacFie
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The Canada
IoT Security process, fostered by ISOC's NA Bureau, appeared
to be a success <a href="https://iotsecurity2018.ca/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://iotsecurity2018.ca/</a> </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is video
of Larry Strickling's introductory comments <a href="https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days08/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days08/</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Larry,
incidentally, has left ISOC to work as Policy Director for US
Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg</div>
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<div>I am interested to know of examples of nation states that
might have reasonable to good practices for involving civil
society and the private sector in internet related policy
development, along the lines perhaps of the ancient WSIS
definition of "on an equal footing".
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<div>Is anyone doing this this other than in a token
fashion? A few years ago we had a good example with
Brazil, but a change of government changed that. What are
our good examples now, or don't they exist?</div>
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