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    You could email your wish to have your organisation sign to Joe
    Hall. <a href="mailto:joe@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer">joe@cdt.org</a><br>
    Best,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/10/2019 22:01, Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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      <div>Oops - looking again, this seems to have already closed....</div>
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      <div>Ian</div>
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      <div>------ Original Message ------</div>
      <div>From: "Ian Peter" <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
          moz-do-not-send="true">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></div>
      <div>To: <a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com"
          moz-do-not-send="true">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>;
        "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
          moz-do-not-send="true">ocl@gih.com</a>></div>
      <div>Cc: "governance" <<a
          href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
          moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
      <div>Sent: 8/10/2019 7:53:44 AM</div>
      <div>Subject: Re[2]: [governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd:
        FB open letter e2e update...)</div>
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          <div>I support Sala's proposal that IGC signs on - however we
            have a deadline of Monday - can we come to a quick decision
            to do so before then? I guess an early question is whether
            anyone here is opposed to IGC signing on?</div>
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          <div>In the mean time individual organisations here should
            sign on if they wish as per details below.</div>
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          <div>Ian</div>
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          <div>------ Original Message ------</div>
          <div>From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a
              href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
              moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
          <div>To: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <<a
              href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true">ocl@gih.com</a>></div>
          <div>Cc: "governance" <<a
              href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
              moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
          <div>Sent: 8/10/2019 7:36:00 AM</div>
          <div>Subject: Re: [governance] End to End encryption (was:
            Fwd: FB open letter e2e update...)</div>
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              <div dir="auto">Thanks Olivier.
                <div dir="auto">I propose that the IGC signs on.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 7 Oct 2019,
                  3:06 pm Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <<a
                    href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true">ocl@gih.com</a>>
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                  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Dear colleagues
                    and friends,<br>
                    <br>
                    this is to let you know that an open letter
                    initiated by CDT is currently in the signature
                    stage. I am surprised this discussion hasn't made it
                    to the IGC mailing list through other channels,
                    especially given the short notice. Please give this
                    a consideration, that the concept of "backdoors"
                    provide a malicious actor with a single point of
                    entry, a weakness in the security systems that
                    secure our privacy and transactions.<br>
                    Kindest regards,<br>
                    <br>
                    Olivier<br>
                    <div>(my own views)<br>
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                            <td>FB open letter e2e update...</td>
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                            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
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                            <td>Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:58:18 -0400</td>
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                            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
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                            <td>Joseph Lorenzo Hall <a
                                href="mailto:joe@cdt.org"
                                rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><joe@cdt.org></a></td>
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                            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
                              align="RIGHT">To: </th>
                            <td>Joe Hall <a href="mailto:jhall@cdt.org"
                                rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><jhall@cdt.org></a>,
                              Emma Llanso <a
                                href="mailto:ellanso@cdt.org"
                                rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><ellanso@cdt.org></a></td>
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                        <div>Fellow encryption advocates,<br>
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                        <div>First, thank you all and your organizations
                          for signing on to the open letter to Facebook
                          on end-to-end encryption.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>We released the first version of this
                          letter at 12:30 US Eastern yesterday, with 59
                          organizations signed on [1]. We're currently
                          at 69 organizations in total, with a few
                          others trying to get through complicated
                          clearance processes this weekend.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>We'd love to get any civil society and
                          digital rights organizations that might feel
                          similarly as all of us about the importance of
                          the "digital glue" that holds up the Internet
                          and digital devices. We have set a deadline of
                          23:59 UTC on Monday (17:00 US Pacific), so
                          please feel free to send the document link
                          (privately or on lists) to others you think
                          might want to sign on, and have them send me
                          email if they would like to be added:</div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit"
                            rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit</a></div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>(The language is set given how many
                          signatories we have.)</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>On Monday, we will close the letter and
                          post a final HTML and PDF versions of the
                          letter with what I suspect will be an amazing
                          showing of solidarity for strong security for
                          massive platforms like those that Facebook
                          controls.<br>
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                        <div>Please take care of yourselves and have a
                          good weekend, Joe<br>
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                        <div>[1]: <a
href="https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/"
                            rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/</a></div>
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                                      <div>Joseph Lorenzo Hall<br>
                                        Chief Technologist, Center for
                                        Democracy & Technology [<a
                                          href="https://www.cdt.org"
                                          rel="noreferrer"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cdt.org</a>]<br>
                                        1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington
                                        DC 20005-3497<br>
                                        e: <a href="mailto:joe@cdt.org"
                                          rel="noreferrer"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">joe@cdt.org</a>,
                                        p: 202.407.8825, pgp: <a
                                          href="https://josephhall.org/gpg-key"
                                          rel="noreferrer"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://josephhall.org/gpg-key</a><br>
                                        Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3
                                        4B10  1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871<br>
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