<div dir="auto">Hi Sheetal,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please go ahead and send the email to Joe but as Olivier mentioned there may still be time till Monday, do an open call to ask people as has already been done and wait for any objection. By Sunday, if there is consensus let Joe know. Essentially, the content is non controversial so should be easy.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">All the best.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sala</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 8 Oct 2019, 11:41 am Sheetal Kumar, <<a href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Salanieta, all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Could we check with Joe at CDT whether the deadline has been extended? And if we find out we can ask the list whether there are any objections to signing on within whatever timeframe is provided. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm happy to get in touch with Joe. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div>Sheetal.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 08:20, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">We have signed on, the three organisations I am a part of. Hope others do too by sending Joe an email.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 10:01 pm Ian Peter, <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Oops - looking again, this seems to have already closed....</div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div>
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<div>To: <a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>; "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>></div>
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<div>Subject: Re[2]: [governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd: FB open letter e2e update...)</div><div><br></div>
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<div>I support Sala's proposal that IGC signs on - however we have a deadline of Monday - can we come to a quick decision to do so before then? I guess an early question is whether anyone here is opposed to IGC signing on?</div><div><br></div><div>In the mean time individual organisations here should sign on if they wish as per details below.</div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div>
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<div>To: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>></div>
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<div>Sent: 8/10/2019 7:36:00 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd: FB open letter e2e update...)</div><div><br></div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Olivier.<div dir="auto">I propose that the IGC signs on.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 3:06 pm Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Dear colleagues and friends,<br>
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this is to let you know that an open letter initiated by CDT is
currently in the signature stage. I am surprised this discussion
hasn't made it to the IGC mailing list through other channels,
especially given the short notice. Please give this a consideration,
that the concept of "backdoors" provide a malicious actor with a
single point of entry, a weakness in the security systems that
secure our privacy and transactions.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
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Olivier<br>
<div>(my own views)<br>
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<td>Joe Hall <a href="mailto:jhall@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><jhall@cdt.org></a>, Emma Llanso
<a href="mailto:ellanso@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><ellanso@cdt.org></a></td>
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<div>Fellow encryption advocates,<br>
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<div>First, thank you all and your organizations for signing on
to the open letter to Facebook on end-to-end encryption.</div>
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<div>We released the first version of this letter at 12:30 US
Eastern yesterday, with 59 organizations signed on [1]. We're
currently at 69 organizations in total, with a few others
trying to get through complicated clearance processes this
weekend.</div>
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<div>We'd love to get any civil society and digital rights
organizations that might feel similarly as all of us about the
importance of the "digital glue" that holds up the Internet
and digital devices. We have set a deadline of 23:59 UTC on
Monday (17:00 US Pacific), so please feel free to send the
document link (privately or on lists) to others you think
might want to sign on, and have them send me email if they
would like to be added:</div>
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<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit</a></div>
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<div>(The language is set given how many signatories we have.)</div>
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<div>On Monday, we will close the letter and post a final HTML
and PDF versions of the letter with what I suspect will be an
amazing showing of solidarity for strong security for massive
platforms like those that Facebook controls.<br>
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<div>Please take care of yourselves and have a good weekend, Joe<br>
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<div>[1]: <a href="https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/</a></div>
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1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497<br>
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202.407.8825, pgp: <a href="https://josephhall.org/gpg-key" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://josephhall.org/gpg-key</a><br>
Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86
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