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<div>From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>To: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>></div>
<div>Cc: "governance" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 8/10/2019 7:36:00 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd: FB open letter e2e update...)</div><div><br /></div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Olivier.<div dir="auto">I propose that the IGC signs on.</div></div><br /><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 3:06 pm Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  

    
  
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    Dear colleagues and friends,<br />
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    this is to let you know that an open letter initiated by CDT is
    currently in the signature stage. I am surprised this discussion
    hasn't made it to the IGC mailing list through other channels,
    especially given the short notice. Please give this a consideration,
    that the concept of "backdoors" provide a malicious actor with a
    single point of entry, a weakness in the security systems that
    secure our privacy and transactions.<br />
    Kindest regards,<br />
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    Olivier<br />
    <div>(my own views)<br />
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            <td>FB open letter e2e update...</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
            <td>Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:58:18 -0400</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
            <td>Joseph Lorenzo Hall <a href="mailto:joe@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer"><joe@cdt.org></a></td>
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            <td>Joe Hall <a href="mailto:jhall@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer"><jhall@cdt.org></a>, Emma Llanso
              <a href="mailto:ellanso@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer"><ellanso@cdt.org></a></td>
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        <div>Fellow encryption advocates,<br />
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        <div>First, thank you all and your organizations for signing on
          to the open letter to Facebook on end-to-end encryption.</div>
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        <div>We released the first version of this letter at 12:30 US
          Eastern yesterday, with 59 organizations signed on [1]. We're
          currently at 69 organizations in total, with a few others
          trying to get through complicated clearance processes this
          weekend.</div>
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        <div>We'd love to get any civil society and digital rights
          organizations that might feel similarly as all of us about the
          importance of the "digital glue" that holds up the Internet
          and digital devices. We have set a deadline of 23:59 UTC on
          Monday (17:00 US Pacific), so please feel free to send the
          document link (privately or on lists) to others you think
          might want to sign on, and have them send me email if they
          would like to be added:</div>
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        <div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit" rel="noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit</a></div>
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        <div>(The language is set given how many signatories we have.)</div>
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        <div>On Monday, we will close the letter and post a final HTML
          and PDF versions of the letter with what I suspect will be an
          amazing showing of solidarity for strong security for massive
          platforms like those that Facebook controls.<br />
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        <div>Please take care of yourselves and have a good weekend, Joe<br />
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        <div>[1]: <a href="https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/" rel="noreferrer">https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/</a></div>
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                      <div>Joseph Lorenzo Hall<br />
                        Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy &
                        Technology [<a href="https://www.cdt.org" rel="noreferrer">https://www.cdt.org</a>]<br />
                        1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497<br />
                        e: <a href="mailto:joe@cdt.org" rel="noreferrer">joe@cdt.org</a>, p:
                        202.407.8825, pgp: <a href="https://josephhall.org/gpg-key" rel="noreferrer">https://josephhall.org/gpg-key</a><br />
                        Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10  1607 5F86
                        6987 40A9 A871<br />
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