<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#20124d">Thank you so much, Ian, for answering my question. I'm OK with your answer.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font size="4" style="" color="#0b5394">Regarding Imran's suggestion, I understand the word "subscribe" in this context as meaning "agree". In that case, it's not vague. What I think may need to be specified in the charter is how someone will be known to have agreed. What do other IGCians think?</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#20124d"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148);font-size:large">@DrCPUNjoku</span></div><div><p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:small"><font style="font-size:8.66667px"> </font></span><span style="background-color:blue;color:white"><font size="4">We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things,</font></span></font></p><p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:blue;color:white"><font size="4">especially if they're not yielding optimum results.</font></span></font><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:37 AM <a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Thanks for the suggestion Imran - while I like your wording suggestions the current wording is based on an excerpt from the Charter which it might be best to leave intact - </div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Arial;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Members of the Internet Governance Caucus are individuals, acting in personal capacity, who subscribe to the charter of the caucus" - but some additional elaboration might be useful. Will have a look at it.</span></div>
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<div>From: "Imran Ahmed Shah" <<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>></div>
<div>To: "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ" <<a href="mailto:udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng" target="_blank">udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng</a>>; "<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></div>
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<div>Sent: 29/08/2019 3:09:44 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [governance] Voting Process for election of co coordinators</div><div><br></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Ian,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>With reference to following voting Process, is it possible to elaborate the meaning of "Subscribe to the Charter" in simple words? like this: <br></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>"...<b>they acknowledge the acceptance of the IGC Charter, </b>and the By-Laws defined in the IGC Charter" <br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>or more simply</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span><span>"...<b>they accept the IGC Charter</b>" </span></span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><i> instead of </i><span><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span><span>"...<b>they subscribe to the charter of
IGC</b></span>"</span></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div>Thanks <br><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Imran Ahmed Shah<br></div><div dir="ltr">being a IGC Member<br></div><div><br></div>
</div><div id="gmail-m_4932065200706701641ydpf7441aefyahoo_quoted_7837148334" class="gmail-m_4932065200706701641ydpf7441aefyahoo_quoted">On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 05:45:08 GMT+5, <a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_4932065200706701641ydpf7441aefyiv0818289870"><div><div>Thanks Chris for the feedback</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div><div><div id="gmail-m_4932065200706701641ydpf7441aefyiv0818289870x44b6c217baa9428"><div>>The following clause sparked a question in my mind: "<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:14px">they have not previously voted in this election". </span>Shouldn't the voting software be able to know that someone had already voted </div><div> > and disallow a second attempt?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Yes it would - but it could be that some people have more than one email address registered on list - so this reminds people to think about whether they have voted before using another email address. Similarly the software should pick up that they have been subscribed to list for more than 2 months - so the inclusion of that question is also more precautionary rather than necessary. It wont hurt for people to understand and affirm the conditions for voting.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ian Peter</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div>Sent: 29/08/2019 10:33:24 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [governance] Voting Process for election of co coordinators</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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This is awesome, an excellent show of commitment to work and attention to detail.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>The following clause sparked a question in my mind: "<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:14px">they have not previously voted in this election". </span>fo Shouldn't the voting software be able to know that someone had already voted and disallow a second attempt?</div><div><br clear="none">On Thursday, August 29, 2019, <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail-m_4932065200706701641ydpf7441aefyiv0818289870gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">This is some background on the election
process for those interested:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">At this stage we envisage nominations
closing on September 5, and after that a short period where
candidates can confirm their nominations and supply 300 word
statements for the benefit of voters.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Election software is currently being
prepared and will be tested by a small group between now and
September 10.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">On September 10 (approx) voting will
commence, and run for approximately 2 weeks.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Each email address on the IGC mailing
list for 2 months or more will receive an individual email when
voting is ready to commence, which contains a link to click on to
participate in voting. The link is registered to that email address –
so is not transferable. We will follow up on anyone who for any
reason does not receive the voting link.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">The voting process will firstly ask
people to confirm that</p>
<ul><li><p style="margin-bottom:0cm">they identify as civil society</p>
</li><li><p style="margin-bottom:0cm">they subscribe to the charter of
IGC</p>
</li><li><p style="margin-bottom:0cm">they have not previously voted in
this election</p>
</li><li><p style="margin-bottom:0cm">they have been subscribed to IGC
mailing list for more than 2 months</p>
</li></ul>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">To proceed to voting, participants must
answer positively to all these questions. They are not eligible to
vote otherwise.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">For those who are eligible, they will
now be directed to the voting page.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">The page consists of a list of each
candidate, and also the option “None of the above” . The order
of candidates will be decided by drawing names from a hat.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">A valid vote could be</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">a. selecting one candidates</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">b selecting two candidates</p>
<ol type="i" start="100"><li><p style="margin-bottom:0cm">selecting “None of the Above”</p></li></ol>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">All other combinations (more than two
candidates ticked, no options ticked) will create invalid votes.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Please note: The “none of the above”
option is important: because it is only by participating in the
election that someone can become a current member of IGC. So someone
can become a member without expressing support for any particular
candidate if they so wish.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">All of this will be clearly explained
on the voting page.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">After you have completed your vote, you
will receive a follow up email confirming your participation and
membership of IGC.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">At the close of elections, the
returning officers will announce results and overall vote totals:
plus any other relevant information about informal votes etc. New co
coordinators can then take their place for their respective terms..</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Also at that time we will have a valid
and up to date list of IGC members (for the first time in years).
That will enable actions like appointing an Appeals Team to take
place according to processes outlined in the Charter.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">That's it in a nutshell: everything
should be straightforward when you receive the voting slip, but we
will post follow up messages on list and reminders during the
process. Myself and Tapani will also be available to deal with any
queries and anomalies.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm">Ian Peter
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