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body { font-family: Segoe UI; font-size: 12pt; }</style></head><body><div>Hi Sala,</div><div><br /></div><div>I like this as a way forward, and note that on the draft of the other proposed submission to Chinese government you have just included:</div><div><br /></div><div><div id="x3924d542c62a4cfcbc2e8c67eb682a33"><div style="zoom: 1.1;"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">(1) The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) is deeply concerned by global trends of governments to abuse the "national security" exception to trample on basic freedoms of expression particularly when these freedoms are fundamentally linked to good governance and keeping governments accountable.</div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px" /></div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">(2) From Venezuela's treatment of Luis Carlos Diaz and numerous other journalists, United States of America's treatment of Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, France's mistreatment of Taha Bouhafs, a reporter at French news website <i style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Là-bas Si J'y Suis, </i>allegedly<i style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> </i>assaulted whilst filming a protest of undocumented workers and now the recent sentencing of Chinese webmaster and human rights activist Huang Qi to 12 years in prison for allegedly leaking state secrets when he was promoting accountability and transparency and good governance. </div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">This is I think the beginnings of a good submission. To finalise it:</div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">1. I think we need a comprehensive list of all the journalists and activists in all countries who have been imprisoned or punished for using the Internet to express basic freedom of expression issues which should be a basic human right, not a grounds for imprisonment. There are quite a few more names we can add, and I am sure people on this list can make suggestions.</div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">2. We need to forcefully express the human rights obligations of governments to not use excuses such as national security to undermine basic freedom of expression. I know there are people here who can express this better than I can, but a strong statement in support of basic human rights for on line activists - with a comprehensive list of individuals and countries who have denied them these rights - would be a great thing to do, and I would be happy to work with others on such a statement.</div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">I suggest we drop the Huan Qi draft right now, and instead work on a more comprehensive and inclusive statement as outlined and also suggested by Norbert.</div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Ian</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div>From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
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<div>Sent: 5/08/2019 10:49:16 AM</div>
<div>Subject: [governance] IGC Submissions to UN Human Rights Council Feb 2020</div><div><br /></div>
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<div dir="auto">Dear Colleagues,<div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">The recent discussions on the drafting of Huan Qi which caused some to raise the need to raise the geopolitical violations naturally within that statement, got me to thinking that perhaps we should consider drafting a separate submission for the UN Human Rights Council meeting scheduled to take place in February, 2020.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Given that we are free to make submissions pertaining to those Human rights concerns related to the internet, it may be worthwhile considering making a general submission with a wider focus. This is inspired by Norbert's suggestion of expanding focus of the Huan Qi statement which I think we should keep separate but I defer to the wider community. The oral submissions would probably be a 3 to 5 min intervention from the floor.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">If this is something of interest, then we can work towards it.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Sala</div></div>
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