<div dir="auto">I agree with Parminder.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, 12:19 pm parminder, <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On 17/07/19 3:25 PM, Arsène Tungali wrote:<br>
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<pre class="m_1423882357217216262moz-quote-pre">Good point, Sheetal and I agree with you.
I had briefly discussed the election issue with Bruna during the last
ICANN meeting and we agreed that the best time to conduct co-co
elections is right after the merger step is completed, the new charter
has been adopted and we have a unified list. I am sure Bruna was
planning to report this to the list at some point, but here you are.</pre>
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<p><font face="Verdana">Arsene</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">I am not sure what you mean about a unified
list...</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">There is a clear, and rather easy, way to
join the IGC, and it is up to to those in Bestbits and not
already in IGC to take that route if they want to. Meanwhile we
do welcome all civil society members adhering to iGC's charter
(rather than insisting for, unclear and unstated reasons, to
modify it). <br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">And there is really no merger involved here,
even if people loosely use that language .</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">I remain astonished about the repeated talk
about a new IGC charter, especially as an already decided thing!
What exactly are you talking about. <br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">And I </font><font face="Verdana">am </font><font face="Verdana">further pained for you, being still perhaps an
IGC co-coordinator, not at all responding to my clear email
about how this elist is the primary work place for the IGC, and
also an ex-coordinator's assent tp the sentiment.</font></p>
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I would suggest we all plan to attend the call and agree on next steps.</pre>
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<p><font face="Verdana">You can make whatever calls and agree on
whatever steps you have you may wish to -- that is no part of
IGC's procedure, and would have no meaning or consequence for
it.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">regards</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">parminder </font></p>
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Regards,
Arsene
2019-07-17 11:44 UTC+02:00, Sheetal Kumar <a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><sheetal@gp-digital.org></a>:
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<pre class="m_1423882357217216262moz-quote-pre">Dear all,
While the closure of Bestbits is an internal matter for Bestbits, we have
agreed for it to be closed and so I'd say any IGC conversations need to
take that into account. We're at that point where the closure has been
agreed but there are still people on Bestbits who are not on IGC but likely
will sign up to be part of the discussions soon.
As such, shouldn't we wait for those from Bestbits who want to join to join
and we can then get the IGC coordinator elections going? The call to agree
next steps and make sure everyone is on the same page is going to be w/c
August 5.
Best
Sheetal
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 06:29, <a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>
<a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><ian.peter@ianpeter.com></a>
wrote:
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<pre class="m_1423882357217216262moz-quote-pre">Bruna,
On a more substantive matter -
Can you also advise us on how progress is going as regards getting the
IGC
Coordinator elections (which were due last January) underway? On June 26
you advised the list that you. would be talking to Arsene and would get
back to the list ASAP. Do you have an update?
Ian Peter
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Agree with Parminder.
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, 5:11 am parminder, <a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><parminder@itforchange.net></a>
wrote:
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<pre class="m_1423882357217216262moz-quote-pre">HI Bruna/ All
Good morning to all!
Bestbits' merging into the IGC is their internal matter.
As for a day zero event at the IGF for the IGC, when do you plan it...
Just Net Coalition has an event post lunch on day zero, and please
ensure
that these do not clash. Thanks.
While as a secondary or adjunct method call based discussions can be
done
among however wishes to do so, the charter clearly says that the main
and
authoritative space of IGC's work will be this e-list, which I request
everyone's attention to.
thanks and best regards
parminder
On 17/07/19 7:32 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing
List) wrote:
Dear IGC members,
As some of you might be aware, there has been some discussions around
the
merger of BestBits and IGC going on for the past months.
Back in Tunis, @RightsCon <a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rightscon@accessnow.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><rightscon@accessnow.org></a>, some of us convened
to discuss further steps for Civil Society Coordination and that also
entailed the merger debate. The summary of the discussion, as well as
the
decision on closing BestBits can all be found at the BestBits list
<a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2019-07/msg00001.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2019-07/msg00001.html></a>.
Past this moment, theres a need to arrange a call to discuss our next
steps, including a Day Zero Event at the IGF, later in November. Another
agenda items are also reviving the IGC website, IGC co-coordinators
elections and our charter. Additionally to IGC related subjects, there
is
also the need to discuss a proper closure for BestBits, as well as
proper
outreach in a transparent way and the possibility for members to join
IGC.
For this reason, @Sheetal Kumar <a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><sheetal@gp-digital.org></a> created this
doodle for all interested members to indicate their availability for the
call: <a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26</a>
<a class="m_1423882357217216262moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26></a>
Best Regards,
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