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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Dear Nnenna,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div>>Joining the IGC from BB should not be "a process".</div><div><br clear="none"></div>>Once an individual decides that it is worth it.. it only takes a click to accept the charter and be added to the mailing list.</div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The process suggested by you for BB member to become a IGC by submitting request to create his account on IGCaucus site and enrolling his/her as a IGC member was already open and available. The same process has already proposed by few other members.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">However, what do you mean by accepting the charter? Because previously on the IGC website, there was no option to accept the charter first. (see attached snapshot). <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If we are going to change the IGC Charter, it requires voting among valid voting member. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A <span>newcomer to IGC or even a new member of IGC can't cast his/her vote to approve amendment(s) of the IGC Charter. Because it requires membership duration and voting is previous election....</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Thanking you and Best Regards</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Imran Ahmed Shah</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div></div><div id="ydpf12252e3yahoo_quoted_3574838564" class="ydpf12252e3yahoo_quoted">
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On Wednesday, 17 July 2019, 16:40:11 GMT+5, Nnenna Nwakanma <governance@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>I think we can pull off an IGC elections by Berlin IGF.<br clear="none"></div>Joining the IGC from BB should not be "a process".<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Once an individual decides that it is worth it.. it only takes a click to accept the charter and be added to the mailing list.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>My 2 cents</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Nnenna<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495gmail_quote"><div class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495yqt5396945260" id="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495yqtfd86558"><div class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:36 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-IN"><div class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495gmail-m_-1884700876395715120WordSection1"><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><span>Much to my surprise I agree with Parminder. If Bestbits is to be wound up, so be it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><span>After which, those from Bestbits who wish to caucus in the IGC please subscribe to the list and do so.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><<a shape="rect" href="mailto:governance-request@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.riseup.net</a>> on behalf of parminder <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Reply to: </b>parminder <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 17 July 2019 at 4:50 pm<br clear="none"><b>To: </b>Arsène Tungali <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>>, Sheetal Kumar <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>Cc: </b>"<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>>, governance <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [governance] Reviving IGC: Merging Bestbits in, IGF Day zero event and other subjects<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal">On 17/07/19 3:25 PM, Arsène Tungali wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><pre>Good point, Sheetal and I agree with you.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>I had briefly discussed the election issue with Bruna during the last<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>ICANN meeting and we agreed that the best time to conduct co-co<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>elections is right after the merger step is completed, the new charter<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>has been adopted and we have a unified list. I am sure Bruna was<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>planning to report this to the list at some point, but here you are.<u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><p><span>Arsene</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>I am not sure what you mean about a unified list...</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>There is a clear, and rather easy, way to join the IGC, and it is up to to those in Bestbits and not already in IGC to take that route if they want to. Meanwhile we do welcome all civil society members adhering to iGC's charter (rather than insisting for, unclear and unstated reasons, to modify it). </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>And there is really no merger involved here, even if people loosely use that language .</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>I remain astonished about the repeated talk about a new IGC charter, especially as an already decided thing! What exactly are you talking about. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>And I am further pained for you, being still perhaps an IGC co-coordinator, not at all responding to my clear email about how this elist is the primary work place for the IGC, and also an ex-coordinator's assent tp the sentiment.</span><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>I would suggest we all plan to attend the call and agree on next steps.<u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><p><span>You can make whatever calls and agree on whatever steps you have you may wish to -- that is no part of IGC's procedure, and would have no meaning or consequence for it.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>regards</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span>parminder </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Regards,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Arsene<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>2019-07-17 11:44 UTC+02:00, Sheetal Kumar <a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><sheetal@gp-digital.org></a>:<u></u><u></u></pre><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><pre>Dear all,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>While the closure of Bestbits is an internal matter for Bestbits, we have<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>agreed for it to be closed and so I'd say any IGC conversations need to<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>take that into account. We're at that point where the closure has been<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>agreed but there are still people on Bestbits who are not on IGC but likely<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>will sign up to be part of the discussions soon.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>As such, shouldn't we wait for those from Bestbits who want to join to join<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>and we can then get the IGC coordinator elections going? The call to agree<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>next steps and make sure everyone is on the same page is going to be w/c<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>August 5.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Best<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Sheetal<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 06:29, <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><a shape="rect" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><ian.peter@ianpeter.com></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>wrote:<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><pre>Bruna,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>On a more substantive matter -<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Can you also advise us on how progress is going as regards getting the<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>IGC<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Coordinator elections (which were due last January) underway? On June 26<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>you advised the list that you. would be talking to Arsene and would get<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>back to the list ASAP. Do you have an update?<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Ian Peter<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>------ Original Message ------<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <a shape="rect" href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><governance@lists.riseup.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>To: "Parminder" <a shape="rect" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><parminder@itforchange.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Cc: "governance" <a shape="rect" href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><governance@lists.riseup.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Sent: 17/07/2019 2:14:13 PM<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [governance] Reviving IGC: Merging Bestbits in, IGF Day zero<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>event and other subjects<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Agree with Parminder.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, 5:11 am parminder, <a shape="rect" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><parminder@itforchange.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>wrote:<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><pre>HI Bruna/ All<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Good morning to all!<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Bestbits' merging into the IGC is their internal matter.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>As for a day zero event at the IGF for the IGC, when do you plan it...<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Just Net Coalition has an event post lunch on day zero, and please<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>ensure<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>that these do not clash. Thanks.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>While as a secondary or adjunct method call based discussions can be<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>done<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>among however wishes to do so, the charter clearly says that the main<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>and<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>authoritative space of IGC's work will be this e-list, which I request<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>everyone's attention to.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>thanks and best regards<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>parminder<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>On 17/07/19 7:32 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>List) wrote:<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Dear IGC members,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>As some of you might be aware, there has been some discussions around<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>the<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>merger of BestBits and IGC going on for the past months.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Back in Tunis, @RightsCon <a shape="rect" href="mailto:rightscon@accessnow.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><rightscon@accessnow.org></a>, some of us convened<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>to discuss further steps for Civil Society Coordination and that also<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>entailed the merger debate. The summary of the discussion, as well as<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>the<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>decision on closing BestBits can all be found at the BestBits list<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2019-07/msg00001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2019-07/msg00001.html></a>.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Past this moment, theres a need to arrange a call to discuss our next<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>steps, including a Day Zero Event at the IGF, later in November. Another<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>agenda items are also reviving the IGC website, IGC co-coordinators<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>elections and our charter. Additionally to IGC related subjects, there<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>is<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>also the need to discuss a proper closure for BestBits, as well as<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>proper<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>outreach in a transparent way and the possibility for members to join<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>IGC.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>For this reason, @Sheetal Kumar <a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><sheetal@gp-digital.org></a> created this<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>doodle for all interested members to indicate their availability for the<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>call: <a shape="rect" href="https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><a shape="rect" href="https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>--<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>*Bruna Martins dos Santos *<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>@boomartins<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>---<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>To unsubscribe: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><a shape="rect" href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>List help: <a shape="rect" href="https://riseup.net/lists" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><https://riseup.net/lists></a> <a shape="rect" href="https://riseup.net/lists" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><https://riseup.net/lists></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>---<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>To unsubscribe: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>List help: <a shape="rect" href="https://riseup.net/lists" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><https://riseup.net/lists></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre></blockquote><pre>---<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>To unsubscribe: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre>List help: <a shape="rect" href="https://riseup.net/lists" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><https://riseup.net/lists></a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre></blockquote><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>--<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>*Sheetal Kumar*<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 |<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre></blockquote><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre></blockquote><p class="ydpf12252e3yiv5810114495MsoNormal">--- To unsubscribe: List help: <u></u><u></u></p></div></div>
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