<div dir="ltr">Hi Mawaki, all:<div><br></div><div>No need to apologise or call it a rant. It's a very fair point, and I appreciate your articulation. As someone who lives in Europe and undoubtedly benefits from having the IGF hosted on the continent, I am also frustrated that – assuming it's already been decided – the IGF would be held yet again in Europe.</div><div><br></div><div>I know that the country where it's held mainly rests on which government is willing to host it, so I do understand if the options are limited.</div><div><br></div><div>What are the solutions to this?</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Best,<br>-Michael</font><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:26 AM Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Good point, Abdeldjalil. Geneva, Paris, Berlin and now Poland (Varsovie/Warsaw, I guess?) That's four.<div dir="auto">The Schengen visa is such a hassle for so many people, and so time consuming! I'm not even talking about getting all the paperwork in order. One has to secure the interview appointment months and months in advance and that alone is sometimes enough to cause failure. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And when you manage to get the visa, it only lasts the exact number of days planned for your meeting (or whatever the purpose of the visit.) And even if one knows there's another meeting <span style="font-family:sans-serif">(say, ICANN)</span> coming up in the next few months still in the Schengen space which one needs to attend, one has to go through all of it again. They won't consider that even if the visa paperwork for the next meeting is ready. Certainly not if the two consecutive meetings are happening in two different Schengen countries, although any Schengen country visa applies to the whole of Schengen space. I'm not even sure they accept to issue an extended visa in the case the two meetings were to happen in the same country three or four months apart. The bureaucracy of sovereignty !</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Okay, I guess that was my mid-week rant. Otherwise, I'm looking forward to seeing and enjoying Berlin and hopefully Warsaw. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mawaki </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 08:29 Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <<a href="mailto:bachar@igf.td" target="_blank">bachar@igf.td</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks Arsene for sharing. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div>Congratulation for that innovation :knowing the date early . <div dir="auto">After 3 round I'm Europe we hope that after Poland will be in AFRICA . </div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="auto">-------------------------------<br><br>Cordialement<br><br>ABDELDJALIL BACHAR BONG<br><br><br>----------------------------------<br>PRESIDENT & CEO <br><br><br>ASSOCIATION "HOUSE OF AFRICA"<br>E-mail: bachar@houseof.africa<br>Twitter: @HOUSEOFINTERNET<br>WEBSITE : www.houseof.africa <br>Whatsapp: +23566274284<br>Skype: Bongbour <br><br>-------------------------------------<br><br>Le Secrétaire Exécutif/Executive Secretary <br><br>Forum sur la Gouvernance de l'Internet au Tchad (FGI Tchad) / Chad Internet Governance Forum <br>-------------------------------------<br><br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:Bachar@igf.td" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Bachar@igf.td</a><br>Website: <a href="http://www.igf.td" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.igf.td</a><br>Twitter :@IGFCHAD <br><a href="https://twitter.com/bacharbong" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/bacharbong</a><br>Tél:0023566274284<br>N'djaména(Tchad)<br><br><br>---------------------------------------------<br>|AFRINIC Fellow|ISOC CHAD Member|ICANN/AFRALO Member|NEXTGEN Fellow|GIVE1PROJECT MEMBER|IGFSA MEMBER|ACIEDD BOARD MEMBER|UN YOUTH DELEGATE - CHAD 2016-2018|ICANN60 Fellow ||Youth Peacebuilder|||<br></div></div></div></div>---<br>
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