<div dir="auto"><div>Exactly Bruna, as Arsene has written if a merger BB/IGC happened then at the CSCG level the new members will discuss to be more inclusive and receptive to new members.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">The reason I'm mentioning it because I don't want the CS misses the discussion on this issue. I'm in support the inclusion of new CS coalition that could also be regional coalition and I suggested the IGF youth as an example. </div><div dir="auto">Nothing difficult when there is a well.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 16:10 Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Thanks <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="m_-7164934291835073644gmail-plusReplyChip-0" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@farzaneh badii</a> for kickstarting the discussion and <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="m_-7164934291835073644gmail-plusReplyChip-1" href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@Arsène Tungali</a> for clarifying the doubts about the CSCG. </div><div><br></div><div>Before we decide on which group is joining CSCG, I believe its important for us to stick to what was agreed on the call which was: CSCG representation discussion would only be done once we decided on the IGC/BB merger. </div><div><br>I personally believe that the decision of welcoming an specific group to CSCG is a rather complicated one and would need to be thoroughly discussed within all the groups represented at CSCG, not only best bits and IGC. <br><br>best, </div><div>bruna </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 12:02, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity<br>
or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally<br>
welcome as a great idea.<br>
<br>
The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.<br>
<br>
2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nadira.araj@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,<br>
> Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will<br>
> happens.<br>
> However, I would like to bring to your attention that during my role at<br>
> the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to introduce a<br>
> procedures for New CSCG member.<br>
> <a href="http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C</a><br>
><br>
> There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and<br>
> that could be IG for Youth.<br>
> I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies the<br>
> thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.<br>
> Best,<br>
> Nadira<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took<br>
>> the time to attend the call.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task<br>
>> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on<br>
>> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.<br>
>><br>
>> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was<br>
>> discussed.<br>
>><br>
>> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.<br>
>><br>
>> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a<br>
>> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such<br>
>> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.<br>
>><br>
>> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the<br>
>> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with<br>
>> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then<br>
>> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.<br>
>><br>
>> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging<br>
>> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure<br>
>> and future will happen.<br>
>><br>
>> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC<br>
>> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.<br>
>><br>
>> Hope this helps.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Arsene<br>
>><br>
>> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>>:<br>
>> > He everyone,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point<br>
>> > about<br>
>> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations<br>
>> > are<br>
>> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three<br>
>> > (if<br>
>> > possible).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> > -Michael<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nadira.araj@gmail.com</a><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will<br>
>> >> affect<br>
>> >> the structure of the<br>
>> >> <a href="http://internetgov-cs.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://internetgov-cs.org</a> or the CSCG. The objective of "The CSCG has<br>
>> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,<br>
>> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on<br>
>> >> Enhanced<br>
>> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and<br>
>> members<br>
>> >> of committees and working groups"<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be<br>
>> >> good to look into as well.<br>
>> >> Best,<br>
>> >> Nadira<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> Dear all,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in<br>
>> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you.<br>
>> (I<br>
>> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants<br>
>> >>> there<br>
>> >>> was<br>
>> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the<br>
>> >>> recording)<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in<br>
>> >>> venues<br>
>> >>> such as RightsCon etc.<br>
>> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that<br>
>> the<br>
>> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks<br>
>> deadline<br>
>> >>> to<br>
>> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG<br>
>> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our<br>
>> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the<br>
>> >>> creation<br>
>> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on<br>
>> >>> that<br>
>> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:<br>
>> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to<br>
>> map<br>
>> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if<br>
>> we<br>
>> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our<br>
>> >>> efforts.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for IGF 2019, and civil<br>
>> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a<br>
>> public<br>
>> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Best<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Farzaneh<br>
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>> ><br>
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>> <<br>
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>> ><br>
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>> <<br>
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>> >)*<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
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