<div>Thanks for this analysis, Judith and Diego. I found this very informative.</div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best wishes, Ayden <br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On 22 May 2018 10:17 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><p>HI,<br></p><p>Diego while that is mostly correct. Often the last week has been
taken up with last minute decisions and changes to resolutions.
At the WTDC the discussion and last minute wrangling was down to
the last minute and so people cannot make changes and decisions
about the IGF now and will likely pass on it. It will likely be
people able to change their plans at the last minute but not
necessarily for civil society and NGOs. If the dates stays the
same than this could be very damaging to the IGF and its need for
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<br></pre><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/22/2018 4:11 PM, Diego Rafael
Canabarro (via governance Mailing List) wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div>plenipot goes from 29/oct to 16/nov <br></div><div dir="auto">itu council from 27/oct to 29/oct<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">first 5 days: receptions and elections<br></div><div dir="auto">following week: hard politics and work<br></div><div dir="auto">remaining days: wrap up and formal ceremonies<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">might be the case that 11-15/nov is not as
relevant to pp delegates and might allow them to join the
IGF, including for those who travel home through europe<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Em ter, 22 de mai de 2018 16:21, Ayden
Férdeline <<a rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>>
escreveu:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>Yes,
French media is reporting that it will be in Paris in
November - I wonder if this will be a date conflict with the
ITU's Plenipotentiary?<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" href="http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2018/05/22/32001-20180522ARTFIG00188-paris-accueillera-le-forum-mondial-sur-la-gouvernance-d-internet.php">http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2018/05/22/32001-20180522ARTFIG00188-paris-accueillera-le-forum-mondial-sur-la-gouvernance-d-internet.php</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> —Ayden <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> <br></div><div> On 22 May 2018 8:15 PM, chlebrum <<a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" href="mailto:chlebrum@gmail.com">chlebrum@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > IGF 2018 in Paris 😇<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > French Président Emmanuel Macron will announce
tomorrow, on November<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Chantal LEBRUMENT<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > > Le 20 mai 2018 à 23:02, Ayden Férdeline <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a> a écrit :<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > It is not a serious forum anymore, and I think the
lack of hosts (this year, and let's not forget last, when no
one bid to host it) is very telling unfortunately. Perhaps
it would have been more dignified a death for the IGF to
have retired after 10 successful iterations.<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > > On 20 May 2018 10:57 PM, Norbert Bollow <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a> wrote:<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > The Secretariat has published the
Call for workshop proposals on<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > the IGF website:<br></div><div> > > > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" href="https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-call-for-workshop-proposals">https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-call-for-workshop-proposals</a><br></div><div> > > > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > Deadline for submission is 27 May
2018<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > It's now a week before the deadline, and
still there seems to be no<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > announcement in regard to where and when the
IGF will take place.<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > I really don't see how it's supposed to be
possible to prepare a<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > workshop proposal when neither the potential
workshop organizer nor<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > potential panelists have the information that
most people would<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > consider essential in deciding whether to
attend an event like the IGF.<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > Greetings,<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > Norbert<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:<a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net">igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net</a><br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > List help: <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
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Férdeline" <<a href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="quote"><div>Yes,
French media is reporting that it will be in Paris in
November - I wonder if this will be a date conflict with the
ITU's Plenipotentiary?<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" href="http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2018/05/22/32001-20180522ARTFIG00188-paris-accueillera-le-forum-mondial-sur-la-gouvernance-d-internet.php">http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2018/05/22/32001-20180522ARTFIG00188-paris-accueillera-le-forum-mondial-sur-la-gouvernance-d-internet.php</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> —Ayden <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ <br></div><div class="quoted-text"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 22 May 2018 8:15 PM, chlebrum <<a rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:chlebrum@gmail.com">chlebrum@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > IGF 2018 in Paris 😇<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > French Président Emmanuel Macron will announce
tomorrow, on November<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Chantal LEBRUMENT<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > > Le 20 mai 2018 à 23:02, Ayden Férdeline <a rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a> a écrit :<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > It is not a serious forum anymore, and I think
the lack of hosts (this year, and let's not forget last,
when no one bid to host it) is very telling unfortunately.
Perhaps it would have been more dignified a death for the
IGF to have retired after 10 successful iterations.<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> > > <br></div><div> > > > On 20 May 2018 10:57 PM, Norbert Bollow <a rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a> wrote:<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > The Secretariat has published the
Call for workshop proposals on<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > the IGF website:<br></div><div> > > > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" href="https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-call-for-workshop-proposals">https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-call-for-workshop-proposals</a><br></div><div> > > > > > <br></div><div> > > > > > Deadline for submission is 27 May
2018<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > It's now a week before the deadline, and
still there seems to be no<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > announcement in regard to where and when
the IGF will take place.<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > I really don't see how it's supposed to be
possible to prepare a<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > workshop proposal when neither the
potential workshop organizer nor<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > potential panelists have the information
that most people would<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > consider essential in deciding whether to
attend an event like the IGF.<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > Greetings,<br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > Norbert<br></div><div> > > > <br></div></div><div class="elided-text"><div>> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:<a rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net">igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net</a><br></div><div> > > > <br></div><div> > > > List help: <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer
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