I like the submissions here so far. Although some of us have opposing views regarding reforming the forum, I noticed that no person had objected to Raul's assertion that the world was much better with the IGF than without it! This means that none is saying "To hell with IGF."<br><br>Also to me, the IGF is a good thing for many reasons, including Raul's, Anriette's and Raoul's. I understand Ayden wants IGF reformed but he doesn't believe reformation is possible. Before anyone can say whether Ayden is right or wrong, and to help us answer Arsene's questions, let's look at certain features of the IGF we have now.<br><br>1. There are too many movements and too much good sounding talk that translates to only a few actions. It's a discussion forum; yes, but what are or should be the aims of the discussions? It seems to me that many participants are focused on either having a large retinue of travels or enjoying travel funding. Some others are satisfied with just organizing sessions to display oratorial skills or to show they can organize sessions in a high-level meeting. What should be the outcomes of such sessions is not a consideration. This links naturally to No. 2.<br><br>2. There are too many sessions. Raul mentioned this. This obscures the priority attention and general participation some sessions deserve. It's worse when an essential subject/topic have duplicate to quintiplicate or more sessions. For example, over 5 Internet shutdowns sessions and about 6 sessions on fake news were held in IGF 2017. In most cases, what actually separates one session's topic from another is the wording. As Raul suggested, sessions should be limited to a number that allows somewhat exhaustive discussions of subjects. In this way, participants can return home with convictions for concrete actions.<br><br>3. Remote participants aren't given the same recognition as on-site participants, added to the situation identified by Alex that only a few persons participate remotely. The low statistics of remote participation might be a result of the non-recognition. I had remote-participated in sessions where my chat questions and/or submissions weren't replied to. Yet, such international discussion meetings as IGF about Internet are an excellent opportunity to authoritatively showcase and guarantee the virtual property of the Internet which is central to its working and to any myriad of benefits it can give. <br><br>4. So many important stakeholders are left out: a) populations that speak only mother tongues; b) rural folks; c) low income people; d) the physically challenged (which are often a mix of the other groups); e) students; f) the uneducated / illiterate population; etc. Most IGF participants who claim or think they represent any of these people are not true representatives. Mechanisms should be in place to make the forum more inclusive.<br><br>5. Government delegates / participants in many cases are people who have no authority to make recommendations or take decisions and don't even give reports when they return to their countries after meeting. <br><br>6. Stakeholders who should be central in certain sessions are often absent in the sessions. Is it proper that no African governments rep was present in a session on Internet shutdowns taking a toll on Africa's economy? That's just one example of sessions not having the appropriate participants for productive discussions. Do we leave things that way?<br><br>7. IGF, regional IGFs and national IGFs appear to be operating in isolation, independent of one another in practice. Themes of meetings are often unrelated, neglecting the truth that one forum ought to be feeder node to the next. This needs a remedy.<br><br>I strongly think CS reps in MAG have a duty to present these and other shortcomings to MAG's discussions table. Depending on the strength of their business cases and way any recommendations in those lines will be made, since MAG doesn't take decisions for IGF, changes in favour are likely to take place. <br><br>Contrary or more views needed.<br><br>CPU<br><br>On Wednesday, March 21, 2018, Alex Comninos <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>> Remote participation needs to become a real and appealing thing for the IGF to become relevant.<br>> I have not taken part in IGFs since Bali due to geographical and financial constraints.<br>> RP is always far in the background with almost no participants. It's also really hard to actually get that terrible Cisco software working on anything but a windows PC.<br>> I did do some serious RP for the Mexico IGF. It could be a very powerful tool. One can easily monitor many sessions. Also one tends to be less distracted by schmoozing and travel fatigue.<br>> The IGF has failed to communicate to the average netizen that it exists, what it is, and that we are all stakeholders.<br>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, 20:40 Arsène Tungali, <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2018/03/lets-reform-igf-ensure-healthy-future/">https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2018/03/lets-reform-igf-ensure-healthy-future/</a><br>>><br>>> A blog from Raul (ISOC) about the need to reform the IGF. I know this is what so many other people believe we should do. Let’s talk about it!<br>>><br>>> Can we discuss what are the changes that we would like to see happen to make the IGF as strong and powerful as it used to be? As of now, no one know where the IGF 2018 will take place and we are in March! All i know and heard from Chengetai is that they have 3 countries in mind but are yet to decide!<br>>><br>>> Now that the new MAG was announced, what are our expectations of its members? What do you think of new and past members? What can we expect from our CS representatives there?<br>>><br>>> Thanks,<br>>><br>>> Arsene<br>>><br>>> -----------------<br>>> Arsène Tungali,<br>>> <a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali">about.me/ArseneTungali</a><br>>> +243 993810967<br>>> GPG: 523644A0<br>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)<br>>> ---<br>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:<a href="mailto:igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net">igc-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net</a>><br>>> List help: <<a href="https://riseup.net/lists">https://riseup.net/lists</a>><br>>><br>><br><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148);font-size:large">CPU </span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:large"><font color="#0000ff">_______________________________</font></span></div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B577ZHXalqL8RXRfUnNZYzBQTU0&revid=0B577ZHXalqL8VG9WZEM4dFU1Sm9VU0xWZmlrMlo2cTdUVzFzPQ" width="96" height="95"><font color="#0000ff">----------------------------------------------------</font><br></div><div><p style="font-size:12.8px"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><font color="#999999">Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ, Ph.D.</font></span></b></p><p style="font-size:12.8px"><font color="#666666"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">E-learning specialist; </span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Information and knowledge management
expert; </span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Educator; </span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">ICT4D advocate;</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol"><span style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Researcher; </span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Founder & President, Researchers on
ICTs in Higher Education in Africa (RICTHE Africa); </span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Founder, ICT4TeLe (ICT for Teaching and Learning
- an e-learning initiative for educators and allied workers)</span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#00b050">Alternate e-mail</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"">: <a href="mailto:udochukwu.njoku@ieee.org" target="_blank">udochukwu.njoku@ieee.org</a>, <a href="mailto:dr.c.p.udochukwunjoku@outlook.com" target="_blank">dr.c.p.udochukwunjoku@outlook.com</a></span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:6.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#ff00ff">Skype</font></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">:
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