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<p>The UN General Assembly mandated Working Group on Enhanced
Cooperation (on international Internet related public policies)
which was tasked to develop institutional means for appropriate
governance of the global Internet folded up yesterday after 4
years of work ( 2 years each of two versions) without making any
recommendation. I wrote the following email to the group that lays
out how I see the group's work, especially its failure to come up
with any recommendation...<br>
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parminder </p>
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<td>thanks, goodbye, and a few reflections on WGEC</td>
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<td>Thu, 1 Feb 2018 19:22:35 +0530</td>
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<td>parminder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder.js@gmail.com"><parminder.js@gmail.com></a></td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:CSTD-WGEC@unctad.org">CSTD-WGEC@unctad.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:CSTD-WGEC@unctad.org"><CSTD-WGEC@unctad.org></a>, stdev
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3">Dear All</font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3">As the two years of WGEC end (4 for me, continuing
from the last WGEC), one departs with a lot of learning,
growth and good memoires. Thank you all for being a part of
it. I wish to say farewell to all, till we meet again!</font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3">On the work side: after a night’s sleep over it,
this is what I feel about the WGEC’s work.</font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3">There were promising exciting moments in the last
hours. If these could have come earlier it might just have
been possible for us to have made some progress. But then,
unfortunately, they did not. In the end, my summative
assessment is as follows. It would have been nice to have
had a report, but it is more truthful that there isnt one.
That is the true reflection of the state of affairs. And
while we have responsibilities to ourselves and to the group
of nice-ness and collegiality, there is a much higher
responsibility of telling the undiluted truth to the global
public. </font></font> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3">And the truth is that on the matter of how public
governance of the global Internet and the digital phenomenon
should be undertaken in the UN, we today are even more apart
then we were even at the WSIS. A good proof of it comes from
examining what was the central piece of the excitement of
the last hours yesterday (an excitement, I admit, I shared
in the room at that time.). At Tunis, the global community
could agree that (1) the current mechanisms of global public
governance of the Internet were inadequate ( <span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">T</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">unis Agenda</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">, para 6</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">0), and (2) urgent further work is needed
that </span></span></span></font></span>“<span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">could envisage creation of a suitable
framework or mechanisms…” ( para 61). Seventeen
years after WSIS, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">when the</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> Internet/ digital has transformed the
world beyond what anyone could </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">have</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> imagine</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">d</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> in Tunis, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">and there are </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">unthinkably </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">monumental governance needs and
challenges, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">a weak formulation </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">that we can continue to consider “the
possibility of new [institutional approaches]” was
offered as the “big” (and the only) carrot. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">That too only in the last few hours.</span></span></span></font></span></font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">And then is was quickly withdrawn, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">seemingly</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> in exchange of putting, in a portion of
the report </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">that </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">mention</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">ed</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> “the </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">key</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> issues discussed” (and of course non
agreed ), a para or two each of </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">the </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">two key divergent positions on the need </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">for</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> new institutional development. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">This would just have been a factual
statement of what actually got presented and
discussed, but not agreed.</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> While I myself shared in the excited
possibility of us getting some agreement somehow,
it is evident that this was much less that what </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">the Tunis Agenda a</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">lready mentions. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">Although it </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">is admittedly</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> better that what has eve</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">r</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> got into the texts since then, which was
why </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">some of us were</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> ready to take it, until the offer got
withdrawn. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">This is where the negotiations collapsed,
as time was in any case not on our side. </span></span></span></font></span></font></font>
</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">A “no report” therefore conveys the fact
of the matter more truthfully to our constituents
that a report that, apologies the for dismissive
tone, but, honestly, largely said things to the
effect that “people in the world should be more
honest </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">and friendly</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">”. Would </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">such a report</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> have </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">represented</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> progress? Not in my view. It </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">w</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">ould more likely have been a smoke screen
of </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">seeming</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> progress on </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">the </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">subject, for some unnecessary months or
years, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">which would have only</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> retard</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">ed</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> urgent consideration of this most
important global public policy imperative, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">which</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> is required right now</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">We are already late in fact.</span></span></span></font></span></font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">So rather than rue that we could not agree
to some weak and largely meaningless report </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">regarding</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> how global public governance of the
Internet (and </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">the </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">digital phenomenon) should be done, let us
be satisfied that we </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">put in</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> our best efforts </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">to converge</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">, and then honestly </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">we </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">let the world know that there does </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">not</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> yet exist </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">the </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">political will to develop appropriate
global mechanism</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">s</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> of public </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">governance of the Internet. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">E</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">ven in tragedy, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">h</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">onestly serves better that superfluous
make-believes </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">that</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> could elevate </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">one’s</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> spirits temporarily. </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">The</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> public interest is served best by stating
the actual fact, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">and we did that by the act of “no report”</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">. </span></span></span></font></span></font></font>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">I </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">much </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">thank Amb Benedicto for his exceptionally
patient, inclusive and capable handling of a very
difficult discussion. Special kudos for the
secretariat for providing high quality
professional </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">help</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> that never slipped, </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">which let</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> our work go </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">on so</span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> smoothly.</span></span></span></font></span></font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal"> </span></span></span></font></span><span
style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#333333"><span
style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">And a warm thanks and goodbye to all
members.</span></span></span></font></span></font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">Best regards</span></span></span></font></span></font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
size="3"><span style="font-variant: normal"><font
color="#333333"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span
style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight:
normal">parminder </span></span></span></font></span></font></font>
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