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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria",serif">Hi.</span></p>
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</span>high time we consider duplicating the archive automatically incase if future errors.<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria",serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria",serif">I was doing some work about archiving and have since learnt that there are companies offering “dark archives” service. These are archives of archives. Here we are
 talking about serious archives—in the case, the National Archives of Singapore. Publishers apparently use the service too. The dark archive companies ensure that the files are not corrupted and always machine readable.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Cambria",serif">Ours will be small in scale but I can find out more information if the executive committee wishes.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Peng Hwa ANG</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"><governance-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Remmy Nweke <remmyn@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Remmy Nweke <remmyn@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 3 January 2018 at 5:11 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku <udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm@eff.org>, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino@gmail.com>, "governance@lists.riseup.net" <governance@lists.riseup.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><a name="_MailOriginalBody">Happy New Year
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">As we journey in this reconstruction of archive, may be is high time we consider duplicating the archive automatically incase if future errors.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">Just thinking.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">Remmy</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">On 3 Jan 2018 02:59, "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku" <</span><a href="mailto:udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng"><span style="">udochukwu.njoku@unn.edu.ng</span><span style=""></span></a><span style="">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">So it's by error.  I think it's understood that the archive is really lost. 
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can get to work. The sooner the better.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">On Jan 3, 2018 12:05 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <</span><a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank"><span style="">jmalcolm@eff.org</span><span style=""></span></a><span style="">> wrote:</span></p>
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<span style="">On 2/1/18 11:47 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:<br>
> So no one has the login for the Digital Ocean server?<br>
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> Can't a letter to the company explaining the situation help recover it<br>
> and give it to someone?<br>
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> Sounds easier than building a new archive from scratch from people's emails</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="">No that's not the issue.  We have access to the server, but the archives<br>
were deleted from the server at some time within the last few months, by<br>
one of the volunteers who was trying to get the mailing list working again.<br>
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As to why he didn't tell anyone, he may not have realized what he had done.</span></p>
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