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<p><font face="Verdana">Social Credit System is currently perhaps
the most dangerous public program anywhere! It is the true
definition of a totalitarian state when the state declares among
its objective to "build an harmonious society", "carry froward
traditional virtues" and "strengthen social sincerity" --
whatever all these terms mean (the ambiguity often being the
whole idea).....</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">The Economist carried this article on "<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21711902-worrying-implications-its-social-credit-project-china-invents-digital-totalitarian">China
invents the digital totalitarian state</a>" a few months back
which gives a good view of what is happening.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">parminder </font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 13 July 2017 04:29 PM,
Brandt Dainow wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+1
to Vint. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Let’s
add some further aims:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Make
everyone acts honestly all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ensure
everyone gets treated fairly all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ensure
all humans act in accordance with their society’s highest
ideals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This
may look like it has nothing to do with the internet, but
that’s not the case. Systems to enforce this are under
active development and government sponsorship.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Comprehensive
monitoring of human activity, in the home and in public,
combined with facial recognition to identify people,
linguistic and behavioural analysis and some clever human
supervision, can monitor human activity for honesty and
conformance with social ideals. People can be encouraged to
act accordingly by denying access to basic social services
like medical treatment and education for offenders, or
making access to some services dependant on people having
built a positive “social history”. The same rules can be
applied to businesses as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This
program is in active development in China. It’s a major,
public, government program. It is called the Social Credit
System. Here’s a quote from the planning doc (link below):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>State Council Notice concerning Issuance of the Planning
Outline for the Construction of a Social Credit System
(2014-2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Planning Outline for the Construction of a Social Credit
System (2014-2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>A social credit system is an important component part of the
Socialist market economy system and the social governance
system. It is founded on laws, regulations, standards and
charters, it is based on a complete network covering the
credit records of members of society and credit
infrastructure, it is supported by the lawful application of
credit information and a credit services system, its inherent
requirements are establishing the idea of an sincerity
culture, and carrying forward sincerity and traditional
virtues, it uses encouragement to keep trust and constraints
against breaking trust as incentive mechanisms, and its
objective is raising the honest mentality and credit levels of
the entire society.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Accelerating the construction of a social credit system is an
important basis for comprehensively implementing the
scientific development view and building a harmonious
Socialist society, it is an important method to perfect the
Socialist market economy system, accelerating and innovating
social governance, and it has an important significance for
strengthening the sincerity consciousness of the members of
society, forging a desirable credit environment, raising the
overall competitiveness of the country and stimulating the
development of society and the progress of civilization.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>On the basis of the general requirement to “strengthen
sincerity in government affairs, commercial sincerity, social
sincerity and judicial credibility construction” as put
forward by the 18th Party Congress, “establish and complete a
social credit system, commend sincerity and punish
insincerity” as put forward by the 3rd Plenum of the 18th
Party Congress, “establish and complete a social credit
system” as put forward in the “CCP Central Committee and State
Council Opinions concerning Strengthening and Innovating
Social Management”, as well as “accelerate the construction of
a social credit system” as put forward in the “12th Five-Year
Planning Outline of the Economic and Social Development of the
People’s Republic of China” (hereafter simply named the “12th
Five-Year Plan”), this Planning outline has been formulated.
The planning period is 2014-2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
href="https://chinacopyrightandmedia.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/planning-outline-for-the-construction-of-a-social-credit-system-2014-2020/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://chinacopyrightandmedia.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/planning-outline-for-the-construction-of-a-social-credit-system-2014-2020/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Brandt
Dainow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> InternetPolicy
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org">mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>vinton cerf<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 July 2017 22:03<br>
<b>To:</b> willi uebelherr<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ISOC Internet Policy; IGF gov<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internet Policy] RootsAction and UN
prohibits nuclear weapons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">from Willi:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">My
personal proposals goes more behind. We have two task on
this planet:<br>
1) dissolve all military and paramilitary structures and
her infrastructures<br>
2) reforestate all dry regions on our planet.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">from
Vint:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">1.
non-starter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">2.
might not work in dry regions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">v</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:27 PM, willi
uebelherr <<a href="mailto:willi.uebelherr@riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">willi.uebelherr@riseup.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 11/7/2017 um 17:05 schrieb Fred
Baker:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 11, 2017, at 12:47 PM, willi
uebelherr <<a href="mailto:willi.uebelherr@riseup.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">willi.uebelherr@riseup.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2) The United Nations Prohibits Nuclear
Weapons<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
As you note, nuclear weapons are a fundamental issue. That
said, I'm not sure we know for sure who has them, and the
countries that we know or believe have them aren't likely
to abandon them without a mutual and verifiable (by them)
stand-down by countries they don't trust. Think
India/Pakistan, Israel/Iran, US/China/North Korea/Russia,
and so on.<br>
<br>
What do you think the probability is of North Korea
abandoning ICBM capabilities to strike the US? If you
think it is greater than zero, say why?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Dear Fred,<br>
<br>
yes, you wrote about balance. I answer, never North Korea
have the interest to attack or destroy USA. Her interest
is her self defense. And North Korea is the only state
with nuclear weapons that sign this declaration.<br>
<br>
The same for me in the balance is with Russia and China.<br>
<br>
A big difference we see with USA and Israel. They think
about to use her nuclear weapons for a first-attack.<br>
<br>
But here i speak more about, that we, the people of this
terrible world, don't have any interest for military
violence against people in other regions. We here have the
interst for a world in peace and free cooperation.<br>
<br>
Therefore, i say, we can act together with all other
people against nuclear weapons on this planet.<br>
<br>
My personal proposals goes more behind. We have two task
on this planet:<br>
1) dissolve all military and paramilitary structures and
her infrastructures<br>
2) reforestate all dry regions on our planet.<br>
<br>
For this we need our cooperation. And for this we need our
free telecommunication. I hope, in the form of an
InterNet. Therefore, all initiatives on this way, every
activity, have a high value.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
many greetings, willi<br>
Asuncion, Paraguay<br>
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