<div dir="ltr">Hi all<div><br></div><div>Can some one tell Janvier to tell us (even in french) what he means by "War against secessionists"</div><div><br></div><div>Olivier who claims "not to be taking sides" too fail to raise this all important issue raised by Janvier Gnoulaye (IT Teacher in the University!!!) </div><div><br></div><div>Can ISOC allow chapter leaders to run their mouths and walk away cheaply?</div><div><br></div><div>This "war against secessionists" thing is givng me sleepless nights here in Douala</div><div><br></div><div>Olivier, quand est ce que la guerre contre les sécessionistes a commencé. Qui commande les troupes gouvernemantaux au front et qui est le Shekau du coté des sécessionistes</div><div><br></div><div>Agien Nyangkwe</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Janvier NGNOULAYE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jnoulaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">jnoulaye@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">Hi to All,</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">I just note that many people have deliberately chosen some words from my last 2 mails and focused their arguments on its, and finally come out with their declaration.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">But, It would have been fair to analyse the full content of the 2 mails, and not to be focused on some single words taken out of their context. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">Thank to Coko Tracy who pointed out a mistake of language I made when I said "You are no more human rights activist than we are ......" reather than to say : "You are not more human rights activist than we are...." Next time I'll write everything in French. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">I request every one to put on the table these two mails I sent and make a fair analyse sentence by sentence.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">My 1st mail was trying to describe what was happening on the ground,and at the end I suggested that the Chapter will work with the two partis to find out a better solution.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">The 2nd mail is in response to Arsène, Norbert and Mawaki where I come with the statement that they were not more human rights activist, or not more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter, for meaning that the Chapter is in line with the vision and mission of Internet Society on the ground. I found a partiality in their analysis and it is deplorable. For instance into my 2nd mail, I talked about sensitized and educated, for the better use of the Internet technologies and policies with the governement, and the local population. No one on this list points out this solution we raise and on which we are working now, to encourage or to advice us.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">Anyway, anyone is free to support or not any action we can make.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">Warm regards</font></div><span class="m_-595361696665505108m_6646229205340687977gmail-m_3401744808191933881HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4">Janvier Ngnoulaye</font></div></font></span></div><div><div class="m_-595361696665505108m_6646229205340687977gmail-m_3401744808191933881h5"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-595361696665505108m_6646229205340687977gmail-m_3401744808191933881m_5816368146484613051gmail-h5">
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Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter?<br>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100<br>
From: Janvier NGNOULAYE <<a href="mailto:jnoulaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">jnoulaye@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Internet Governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><wbr>>, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>>, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>><br>
CC: Dawit Bekele <<a href="mailto:bekele@isoc.org" target="_blank">bekele@isoc.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:dawit@isoc.org" target="_blank">dawit@isoc.org</a>, Joyce Dogniez <<a href="mailto:dogniez@isoc.org" target="_blank">dogniez@isoc.org</a>>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society <<a href="mailto:mail@connectedcommunity.org" target="_blank">mail@connectedcommunity.org</a>>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates <<a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc<wbr>.org</a>><br>
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Dear <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;display:inline"></div>Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki<br>
<br>
I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;display:inline"></div>You are no more human rights<br>
activist than we are, or even <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;display:inline"></div>more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter.<br>
<br>
We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter.<br>
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I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently<br>
proposing. However, note that:<br>
<br>
1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram,<br>
2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one knows by who they are supported and financed.<br>
3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that,<br>
there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part of the population.<br>
4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its<br>
own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to<br>
seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of the Internet technologies and policies.<br>
5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective<br>
offices.<br>
6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28<br>
January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to you here.<br>
<br>
So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal.<br>
<br>
I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue.<br>
<br>
Best regards.<br>
<br>
Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D<br>
ICT Teacher at the University<br>
President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter.<br>
Activist of "The Internet is for everyone"<br>
<a href="http://www.internetsociety.cm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.cm/</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!<br>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100<br>
From: Janvier NGNOULAYE <<a href="mailto:jnoulaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">jnoulaye@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Internet Governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><wbr>>, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun <<a href="mailto:deji@accessnow.org" target="_blank">deji@accessnow.org</a>>, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>>, Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br>
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Hi to all,<br>
<br>
It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions.<br>
<br>
These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions.<br>
<br>
Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending<br>
this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services.<br>
<br>
ISOC Cameroon Chapter<br>
President<br></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>
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