<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi everyone,<br><br></div><div>Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind the letter.<br></div><div><br>Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. <br><br>As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it.<br></div>So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to the list.<br><br></div>Regards,<br></div>A<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>------------------------<br>*<b>Arsène Tungali</b>*<br></div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br>Tel: +243 993810967<i><br></i></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i><br></i></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br><br></i></div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <font face="monospace,monospace">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </font><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN Fellow (<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a> & <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en" target="_blank">Marrakech</a>).<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> -<i> </i><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html" target="_blank">The HuffingtonPost UK</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline.<br>
<br>
Anriette<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote:<br>
> Dear Arsène et al.<br>
><br>
> We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be<br>
> approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the<br>
> world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into<br>
> endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take<br>
> a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further<br>
> motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific<br>
> communication that prompted it.<br>
><br>
> You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions<br>
> prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view.<br>
> Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet,<br>
> on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your<br>
> response, I stand to be corrected.)<br>
><br>
> In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions<br>
> should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex<br>
> political and security issues that the government might be dealing with<br>
> on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe<br>
> Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale<br>
> condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society.<br>
> But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are<br>
> unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register<br>
> our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working<br>
> and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating<br>
> Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times.<br>
><br>
> Mawaki<br>
><br>
> On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><br>
</div></div><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dear Norbert, Mawaki,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if<br>
> anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for<br>
> the first time on our website will be able to understand the<br>
> background. Just thinking outloud :)<br>
><br>
> I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I<br>
> suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st.<br>
><br>
> We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate<br>
> persons, to follow the process as agreed here.<br>
><br>
> Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign<br>
> imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally<br>
> sent this letter.<br>
><br>
> Hope this is fine with you'all.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> A<br>
> -----------------<br>
> Arsène Tungali,<br>
> @arsenebaguma<br>
</span>> <a href="tel:%2B243%20993810967" value="+243993810967">+243 993810967</a> <tel:%2B243%20993810967><br>
<span class="">> GPG: 523644A0<br>
> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)<br>
><br>
> > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a><br>
</span><div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear Arsène and all<br>
> ><br>
> > Please find our proposal at<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTE<wbr>yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit</a><br>
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTE<wbr>yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit</a>><br>
> ><br>
> > I'm also including the text below.<br>
> ><br>
> > Greetings,<br>
> > Norbert<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -- draft starts --<br>
> > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear Colleagues<br>
> ><br>
> > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC,<br>
> <a href="http://igcaucus.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://igcaucus.org</a>)<br>
> > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came<br>
> > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society<br>
> > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet<br>
> > governance policy making.<br>
> ><br>
> > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in<br>
> > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such<br>
> > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously.<br>
> ><br>
> > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to<br>
> > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for<br>
> > Everyone”.<br>
> ><br>
> > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access<br>
> > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to<br>
> > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms,<br>
> > <a href="http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://africaninternetrights.<wbr>org/articles/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://africaninternetrights.<wbr>org/articles/</a>> .<br>
> ><br>
> > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully<br>
> > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance<br>
> > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to<br>
> > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness.<br>
> ><br>
> > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our<br>
> > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon,<br>
> > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent<br>
> > with the above.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards<br>
> > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, <a href="mailto:bekele@isoc.org">bekele@isoc.org</a><br>
</div></div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bekele@isoc.org">bekele@isoc.org</a>><br>
<span class="">> ><br>
> > -- draft ends --<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200<br>
> > Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Dear Norbert,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am<br>
> >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone<br>
> >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least<br>
> >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do<br>
> >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just<br>
> >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins<br>
> >> of the doc).<br>
> >><br>
> >> Regards,<br>
> >> A<br>
> >><br>
> >> ------------------------<br>
> >> **Arsène Tungali**<br>
> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international<br>
> >> <<a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rudiinternational.<wbr>org</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rudiinternational.<wbr>org</a>>>*,<br>
> >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <<a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.smart-serv.info</a>>*, *Mabingwa<br>
> >> Forum <<a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mabingwa-forum.com</a><wbr>>*<br>
</span>> >> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B243%20993810967" value="+243993810967">+243 993810967</a> <tel:%2B243%20993810967><br>
<div><div class="h5">> >> GPG: 523644A0<br>
> >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*<br>
> >><br>
> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow<br>
> >><br>
> <<a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com/<wbr>2015/06/selected-for-2015-<wbr>mandela-washington.html</a><br>
> <<a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com/<wbr>2015/06/selected-for-2015-<wbr>mandela-washington.html</a>>><br>
> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil<br>
> >><br>
> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/what-we-do/education-and-<wbr>leadership-programmes/next-<wbr>generation-leaders/igf-<wbr>ambassadors-programme/Past-<wbr>Ambassadors</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/what-we-do/education-and-<wbr>leadership-programmes/next-<wbr>generation-leaders/igf-<wbr>ambassadors-programme/Past-<wbr>Ambassadors</a>>><br>
> >> & Mexico<br>
> >><br>
> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/what-we-do/education-and-<wbr>leadership-programmes/next-<wbr>generation-leaders/Current-<wbr>Ambassadors</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/what-we-do/education-and-<wbr>leadership-programmes/next-<wbr>generation-leaders/Current-<wbr>Ambassadors</a>>>)<br>
> >> - AFRISIG 2016 <<a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/afrisig-<wbr>2016/class-of-2016/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/afrisig-<wbr>2016/class-of-2016/</a>>> -<br>
> >> Blogger <<a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tungali.blogspot.com</a>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles<br>
> >> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/<wbr>announcement-2014-07-18-en</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/<wbr>announcement-2014-07-18-en</a>>> & Marrakech<br>
> >><br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>resources/pages/marrakech55-<wbr>attendees-2016-03-14-en</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>resources/pages/marrakech55-<wbr>attendees-2016-03-14-en</a>>><br>
> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius<br>
> >><br>
> <<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/<wbr>library/news/1907-afrinic-25-<wbr>fellowship-winners</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/<wbr>library/news/1907-afrinic-25-<wbr>fellowship-winners</a>>>)*<br>
> >> - *IGFSA Member <<a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.igfsa.org/</a>> - The HuffingtonPost UK<br>
> >> <<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.co.<wbr>uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.co.<wbr>uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html</a><wbr>>><br>
> >><br>
> >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a><br>
</div></div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>>>:<br>
<span class="">> >><br>
> >>> Dear Arsène and all<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki<br>
> >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I<br>
> >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At<br>
> >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in<br>
> >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is<br>
> >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who<br>
> >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as<br>
> >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot<br>
> >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter<br>
> >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable<br>
> >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a<br>
> >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already<br>
> >>> known.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused,<br>
> >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should<br>
> >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Greetings,<br>
> >>> Norbert<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200<br>
> >>> Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> Dear colleagues,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Starting a new thread.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about<br>
> >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added<br>
> >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet<br>
> >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more<br>
> >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this<br>
> >>>> new form of oppression.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their<br>
> >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in<br>
> >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon<br>
> >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which<br>
> >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other<br>
> >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other<br>
> >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal,<br>
> >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in<br>
> >>>> his country.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement<br>
> >>>><br>
> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone?utm_content=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/lets-keep-internet-<wbr>everyone?utm_content=</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone?utm_content=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/lets-keep-internet-<wbr>everyone?utm_content=</a>><br>
> >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&<wbr>utm_source=<a href="http://twitter.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com</a><br>
> <<a href="http://twitter.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com</a>>&utm_<wbr>campaign=buffer><br>
<span class="">> >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries.<br>
> >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support<br>
> >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know).<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler<br>
> >>>><br>
</span>> <<a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/people/mr-nicolas-seidler" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/who-we-are/people/mr-<wbr>nicolas-seidler</a> <<a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/people/mr-nicolas-seidler" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.<wbr>org/who-we-are/people/mr-<wbr>nicolas-seidler</a>>>,<br>
<div><div class="h5">> >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing<br>
> >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon<br>
> >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are<br>
> >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and<br>
> >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say:<br>
> >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other<br>
> >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the<br>
> >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff),<br>
> >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them<br>
> >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of<br>
> >>>>> view from Mr.<br>
> >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely<br>
> >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is<br>
> >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In<br>
> >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a<br>
> >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:*<br>
> >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC<br>
> >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance<br>
> >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and<br>
> >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us<br>
> >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet<br>
> >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I<br>
> >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as<br>
> >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we<br>
> >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks<br>
> >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the<br>
> >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively<br>
> >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any<br>
> >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers<br>
> >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?*<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another<br>
> >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without<br>
> >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to<br>
> >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list<br>
> >>>> within the next 48 hours.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Very best,<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator<br>
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