<div dir="ltr">Sorry but that is (again) a false statement from Trump. There was no ban on 2011. <div><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/30/president-trump-refugee-executive-order-barack-obama/97249540/">http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/30/president-trump-refugee-executive-order-barack-obama/97249540/</a><br><div><div>Regards</div><div>Lorena<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-31 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nyangkweagien@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyangkweagien@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Many thanks Wlli for your earlier post. It said it all. It is just like the hollerings about Trump's anti-refugees of certain countries well as Obama signed the sam decree in 2011 and no one made single noise.<div><br></div><div>Who is caught pants down here?</div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) </div></font></span></div><div class="gmail-HOEnZb"><div class="gmail-h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:04 AM, willi uebelherr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:willi.uebelherr@riseup.net" target="_blank">willi.uebelherr@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Dear Nicolas,<br>
<br>
why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences?<br>
<br>
greeting, willi<br>
Asuncion, Paraguay<span><br>
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On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote:<br>
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Hello List,<br>
<br>
As most of you know,<br>
<br>
The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will<br>
still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated<br>
countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list,<br>
and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different<br>
attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1<br></span>
from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in<br>
person*.<span><br>
<br>
Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I<br>
think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban<br>
on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen.<br>
<br></span>
The question that came out from the list <<a href="mailto:ietf@ietf.org" target="_blank">ietf@ietf.org</a>> is, When this<div><div class="gmail-m_7003212153003668118h5"><br>
happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to<br>
me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much<br>
notice.<br>
<br>
We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including<br>
computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of<br>
participation in these events, what efforts are being made?<br>
<br>
What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model we<br>
are trying to preserve.<br>
<br>
Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay.<br>
<br>
-<br>
<br>
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2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <<a href="mailto:nyangkweagien@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyangkweagien@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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Hi all<br>
<br>
Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America first"<br>
now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the<br>
establishment?<br>
<br>
Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's<br>
swearing in address?<br>
<br>
Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should<br>
be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again.<br>
<br>
Wonderful America!<br>
<br>
My prayers goes with President Donald Trump<br>
<br>
Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron)<br>
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US<br>
(i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a<br>
multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill<br>
his America-First wish<br>
<br>
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2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of<br>
Mr. Trump’s America First-ism?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Asking for a friend…<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
M<br>
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