<div dir="ltr">Hi <div><br></div><div>Indeed a working group to work build the bridge to CSTD was proposed this year but never came to truly take form.</div><div><br></div><div>There is good amount of energy towards year-long work, greater strength, and other such concepts. </div><div><br></div><div>Coming down to numbers: 14 folks only in the CS group is too little if there is really a belief of year-long work. We've seen a number of good candidates through IGC only step forward, should there really be only 1 chosen?</div><div><br></div><div>But, yes, governmental and intergovernmental representations are very important, very present, and could have a greater input. </div><div><br></div><div>Some of the work which many participated in this year was largely driven by Gov MAG, such as new session formats, some DCs and BPFs. </div><div><br></div><div>During the meeting w/ ASG Lea brought the need for a more organized CS process. Most of the folks agree on coordinated processes. </div><div><br></div><div>But I guess to do it, volunteers are needed for the intersessionals and the working groups.</div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br></div><div>Renata</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:31 AM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><br></div><div>Strengthening the IGF is nominally a topic outside the WGEC’s planned scope, but in the event that some people once again lock in on the long-running and highly contested demand for an intergovernmental policy space, there could be a connection made. As I suggested in the WGIG+10 anniversary book released earlier this year, “the most desirable approach would be to create an intergovernmental working group under the umbrella of the IGF. After all, governments already routinely meet for high-level events alongside IGF meetings, and they could similarly add a day to each of the IGF’s Open Consultations to engage in dialogue on a work programme, preferably subject to rules of procedure that allow nongovernmental participants to observe and weigh in at designated times, etc. But as such a proposal seems unlikely to garner support from the governments in question, perhaps an ongoing working group under the aegis of the CSTD could be an alternative.” While the objections are easy to anticipate, either approach would be better than the G77’s & China’s proposal to the WSIS+10 review for a stand-alone intergovernmental ‘forum,’ or than a status quo in which discussions get diverted into the ITU, Wuzhen, etc. And the IGF umbrella presumably could have the positive externality of deepening government engagement in the rest of the IGF process.</div><div><br></div><div>That said, I suspect there’s little hope of such suggestions being seriously considered, and that things will continue to drift along as is…</div><div><br></div><div>In which context, the lack of other hosting offers for IGF 2017 seems a bit concerning. But if energies can be mobilized, maybe the Geneva setting will allow some bridge building with the local diplomatic community, other intergovernmental organizations, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:00, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de" target="_blank">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@<wbr>medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-5714596689748572770Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Isn´t this a challenge for the UNCSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation? I encourage you to write a comment. Dateline is tomorrow, December 15!<br><br><a href="http://unctad.org/en/Pages/CSTD/WGEC-2016-to-2018.aspx" target="_blank">http://unctad.org/en/Pages/<wbr>CSTD/WGEC-2016-to-2018.aspx</a><br><br>Wolfgang<br><br><br>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>Von: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.<wbr>igcaucus.org</a> im Auftrag von Ayden Férdeline<br>Gesendet: Mi 14.12.2016 08:14<br>An: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>Betreff: Re: [governance] Despite Renewal, the IGF is still on life support<br><br>I think Samantha is pragmatic, rather than pessimistic. If the IGF would like to become more relevant, it would be helpful if it could morph itself into a platform where ever present tensions between multistakeholder and intergovernmental institutions could be resolved amicably. The IGF in Guadalajara was the first that I have attended, and while I was glad to participate and to be present, I was struck by how little collaboration there was across and within stakeholder groups. I hope this changes moving forward.<br><br><br><br>Ayden Férdeline<br>[<a href="http://linkedin.com/in/ferdeline%5D(http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline)" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline](<wbr>http://www.linkedin.com/in/<wbr>ferdeline)</a><br><br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [governance] Despite Renewal, the IGF is still on life support<br>Local Time: 14 December 2016 7:02 AM<br>UTC Time: 14 December 2016 07:02<br>From: <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br><br>Hi all,<br><br>An interesting article from Samantha Dickinson.<br><br><a href="http://blogs.cfr.org/cyber/2016/12/12/despite-renewal-the-internet-governance-forum-is-still-on-life-support/" target="_blank">http://blogs.cfr.org/cyber/<wbr>2016/12/12/despite-renewal-<wbr>the-internet-governance-forum-<wbr>is-still-on-life-support/</a><br><br>Any thoughts on her reflexions? Do you feel she is pessimistic about the future of the Internet? What's your take on the future of the IGF?<br><br>What do you think is the main issue that needs to be focused on for the next IGF in Geneva next year?<br><br>How do you think the IGF should do to not lose some stakeholders such as the Gov and the private sector?<br><br>Please do share your thoughts.<br><br>-----------------<br>Arsène Tungali,<br>@arsenebaguma<br><a href="tel:+243%20993%20810%20967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a><br>GPG: 523644A0<br>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br><br>Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)<br>______________________________<wbr>______________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br><a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br><a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/<wbr>unsubscribing</a><br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br><a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/<wbr>info/governance</a><br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br><a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br><br>Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/<wbr>translate_t</a><br><br><br>______________________________<wbr>______________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.<wbr>org</a><br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/<wbr>unsubscribing</a><br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/<wbr>info/governance</a><br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br><br>Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/<wbr>translate_t</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><div>
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