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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 17 October 2016 07:16 PM,
      Marianne Franklin wrote:<br>
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      <p>Dear Parminder, Others (am also copying in the IRPC list). <br>
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      <p>There is clearly still lots to debate, </p>
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    Yes Marianne, but the political moment of reckoning does not wait
    for all debates to conclude - debates that has now been happening
    for more than 10 years. The jurisdiction question is being
    considered formally "right now" in the transition process, as it is
    called, In a few months it will be formally declared that the global
    multi stakeholder community - which is supposed to includes me and
    you, and all the debators -- have concluded by full or rough
    consensus that the current jurisdictional status remains the best
    bet for ICANN. The 'decision' will be touted in our name. IGC 11
    years ago took a political position in the middle of debates -
    political activism requires that. 11 years hence the debates cannot
    be less mature then they were before - I am just wondering, what
    happened meanwhile... Well, isnt that too an important question by
    itself to ask, and explore, for activists and academics alike. Just
    clarifying what was the accent of my posting. Meanwhile, yes, more
    debates and articles and comments continue to remain welcome, and
    shd keep coming. But maybe, civil society's job includes some
    political role too!<br>
    <br>
    Meanwhile I do recommend to everyone to read this excellent series
    of IG related articles published in OpenDemocracy and coordinated by
    Marianne. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri">https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri</a> . Debates, academic
    exercises, and political action must all go together. <br>
    <br>
    best regards<br>
    <br>
    parminder <br>
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      <p>on the macro level of past and future ownership and control of
        the strategically important aspects of the internet's
        infrastructure (content being another matter altogether). To
        date the debates about ICANN, positions for/against and all
        other shades, have occurred on lists with well informed, and
        committed participants. <br>
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      <p>To date there is little out there for an informed, wider
        public. This is why comments on the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaLiberties/pranesh-prakash/jurisdiction-taboo-topic-at-icann">Prakash
          piece</a>, or indeed others on this page that may relate to
        the spectrum of issues that keeps all these lists alive and
        actively arriving in our in=boxes, would help inform that wider
        audience. <br>
      </p>
      <p>It is a key reason why I have been working with openDemocracy
        to present these issues to a wider readership so all comments
        welcome to the ICANN piece. <br>
      </p>
      <p>Other articles, including a critical analysis of a UK-based
        initiative for digital rights by Paul Bernal available at <a
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri">https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri</a>.
        <br>
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      <p>warm wishes</p>
      <p>MF<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/10/2016 14:07, parminder wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 17 October 2016 05:20 PM,
          Marianne Franklin wrote:<br>
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          <p>Dear Parminder</p>
          <p>Thanks for sending over this piece in a growing literature
            on ICANN and it future. <br>
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          <p>Just to note that Pranesh's less than celebratory analysis
            for the ICANN transition has been published on the
            openDemocracy series, Human Rights and the Internet, at <a
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href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaLiberties/pranesh-prakash/jurisdiction-taboo-topic-at-icann">https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaLiberties/pranesh-prakash/jurisdiction-taboo-topic-at-icann</a>.
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        Thanks Marianne,<br>
        <br>
        Yes, absolutely not at all celebratory! I had read it a few
        months back, and should have had it in my mind when I made that
        comment. But then, isnt it surprising that when two of the very
        few CS groups in India consider that not much has happened with
        the so called 'transition' in terms of loosening of US control
        over ICANN, there is simply no murmurs in the CS community
        globally to actually take this issue up - in a political manner,
        like making a statement and so on. I may repeat what I have said
        so many tomes earlier - in all the multistakeholder meetings
        that I saw organised in India in the transition processes it was
        always concluded that there are two key issues to sort out - an
        'external' oversight mechanism, and jurisdiction issue. What we
        have is an oversight which is hardly external, and the
        jurisdiction issue is being completely buried. But still it
        seems that everyone -- more or less --  is just celebrating the
        'transition' with no critical take being adopted. <br>
        <br>
        As Pranesh's article points out, seeking a host country
        agreement or in other words jurisdictional immunity for ICANN
        from the US was the demand of Internet Governance Caucus in
        2005. The all round social- political importance of the domain
        name system has only greatly enhanced in the last 10 years, and
        so the US's jurisdictional control over it should be ever less
        acceptable -- but why is no major civil society group today able
        to get up and say the same thing which IGC said and asked for in
        2005? Especially when a process is actually taking place which
        is formally examining the jurisdiction question. I sometimes
        participate in that ICANN WG on jurisdiction, where every effort
        is on to bury this question - and i finds almost no civil
        society voice there. <br>
        <br>
        People here may want to ponder this question - has the US
        stranglehold on the IG discourse actually tightened since then -
        meaning WSIS in 2005? Or perhaps there could be other reasons,
        which I did not think of, and others can enlighten me on. (not
        addressed to you Marianne :), it is general)<br>
        <br>
        Parminder <br>
        <br>
        PS: Excuse me to cc this to IGC list, where a similar discussion
        is on... Those who respond may exercise discretion whether they
        want to respond to both elists or one of them. <br>
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          <p>best <br>
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          <p>MF</p>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/10/2016 15:48, parminder
            wrote:<br>
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                    <td>Is the Internet Really Free of US Control?</td>
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                    <td>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 20:11:26 +0530</td>
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                    <td>parminder <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <td><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <p><font face="Verdana">Hi All</font></p>
              <p><font face="Verdana">I wrote this commentary piece in
                  the Economic and Political Weekly of India on ICANN's
                  oversight transition. For such an important and
                  multi-faceted event, it is surprising that I have come
                  across no article that is other than absolutely
                  celebratory about it, and catches properly the
                  different nuances that are involved. Such a
                  monochromatic discourse in the global IG space is not
                  a good indication. There is an especial lack of views
                  from a progressive and social justice perspective, and
                  from the geopolitical South, both of which I have
                  tried to catch in this brief article.  <br>
                </font></p>
              <p> </p>
              <h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal"><b><font
                    style="font-size: 14pt" size="+2">Internet
                    Governance: Is the Internet Really Free of US
                    Control?</font></b></h1>
              <p>"The recent decision of the United States government to
                cede its control over the internet’s naming and
                addressing system to the Internet Corporation for
                Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), a US-based
                international non-profit body, is heralded as a
                significant step towards the globalisation of internet’s
                core infrastructure. But with ICANN having no special
                jurisdictional immunity and subject to the whims of the
                judicial and legislative branches of the US government
                as well as many of its executive agencies, the decision
                seems more symbolic than meaningful."</p>
              <p><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.epw.in/journal/2016/42/web-exclusives/internet-governance.html">http://www.epw.in/journal/2016/42/web-exclusives/internet-governance.html</a></p>
              Comments are welcome.<br>
              parminder </div>
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          <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Marianne Franklin, PhD
Professor of Global Media and Politics
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
Department of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
Tel: +44 207 9197072
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@GloComm
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Chair of the Global Internet Governance Academic Network (GigaNet)
Steering Committee/Former Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition )
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.internetrightsandprinciples.org">www.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a>
@netrights

Special Series Editor, Human Rights and the Internet 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri">https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri</a>

Digital Dilemmas: Power, Resistance and the Internet (Oxford University Press) 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://global.oup.com/academic/product/digital-dilemmas-9780199982707?cc=nl&lang=en&q=Digital%20dilemmas&tab=reviews#">http://global.oup.com/academic/product/digital-dilemmas-9780199982707?cc=nl&lang=en&q=Digital%20dilemmas&tab=reviews#</a> 

Championing Human Rights on the Internet (I-VI) 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/marianne-franklin/championing-human-rights-on-internet-part-six-summing-up-too-much-or-not-enough">https://www.opendemocracy.net/marianne-franklin/championing-human-rights-on-internet-part-six-summing-up-too-much-or-not-enough</a>

“What does (the Study of) World Politics Sound Like?” 
co-authored with Matt Davies in World Politics and Popular Culture: Theories, Methods, Pedagogies
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/22/edited-collection-popular-culture-and-world-politics/">http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/22/edited-collection-popular-culture-and-world-politics/</a>   
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Marianne Franklin, PhD
Professor of Global Media and Politics
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
Department of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
Tel: +44 207 9197072
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@GloComm
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Chair of the Global Internet Governance Academic Network (GigaNet)
Steering Committee/Former Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition )
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.internetrightsandprinciples.org">www.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a>
@netrights

Special Series Editor, Human Rights and the Internet 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri">https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri</a>

Digital Dilemmas: Power, Resistance and the Internet (Oxford University Press) 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://global.oup.com/academic/product/digital-dilemmas-9780199982707?cc=nl&lang=en&q=Digital%20dilemmas&tab=reviews#">http://global.oup.com/academic/product/digital-dilemmas-9780199982707?cc=nl&lang=en&q=Digital%20dilemmas&tab=reviews#</a> 

Championing Human Rights on the Internet (I-VI) 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/marianne-franklin/championing-human-rights-on-internet-part-six-summing-up-too-much-or-not-enough">https://www.opendemocracy.net/marianne-franklin/championing-human-rights-on-internet-part-six-summing-up-too-much-or-not-enough</a>

“What does (the Study of) World Politics Sound Like?” 
co-authored with Matt Davies in World Politics and Popular Culture: Theories, Methods, Pedagogies
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/22/edited-collection-popular-culture-and-world-politics/">http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/22/edited-collection-popular-culture-and-world-politics/</a>   
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