<div dir="ltr">I think I didn't make myself sufficiently clear.<div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I am not talking about being loud or making noise, I'm talking about the authority that can be exerted by a large number of voices speaking together. Civil society has not "spoken together" for rather a long time, but on this issue, no matter how diverse our ideas may be, I would expect that the majority of civil society (perhaps of everyone??) would agree that it would be desirable at the very least to be able to observe what is happening at the meeting and ideally to have a formal means of contributing to it.</div><div><br></div><div>Given something that potentially we can agree on, this is in fact a great opportunity to test our communal strength.</div><div><br></div><div>Deirdre</div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 June 2016 at 13:54, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Hi</div><div><br></div><div>(Apologies I have no idea if my msg gets out to JNC, pls fwd if appropriate)</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure if being loud or making noise has done the best it could so far. </div><div>I agree we should agree, as CS, on some topics but I also see the challenge on that, being CS (fortunately) a diverse group. </div><div><br></div><div>The topic of remote participation, for instance, has had some news in this last call, as Lea has expressed.</div><div>The twitter like updates remain.</div><div>The streaming - even if partial - seems to be an idea which has been dropped for the moment.</div><div><br></div><div>As for the balance in SG representation on the retreat, from the list one can easily see that CS numbers are low. Even more worrying, CSCG nominees number are even lower. That when compared, for instance, with the numbers of gov and intergov.</div><div><br></div><div>I was reminded that even though CS is participating on retreat, each one of its participants is there on their own personal capacity, not those of their organization. </div><div><br></div><div>So, while this makes it clearer fo the CS rep to express their thoughts, also takes us back to the original question: what, if any, does CS as a group have to do with the next 10 years of the IGF and how should it go about it?</div><div><br></div><div>Just a quick addition: I find twitter updates way more able to interpretation and polemic than streaming of a meeting, so I do not understand very well the choice there. What isn`t spoken has much more power than what is out there in the open.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Renata</div><img align="left" width="0" height="0" style="border:0;width:0px;min-height:0px" alt="">
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Thank you for sharing this. I note that Nitin Desai will be participating in the Retreat remotely. I wonder if this mean that remote participation will be available to all to observe the dialogue exchanged?
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