<div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div>I made the original suggestion, but initially there wasn't very much interest and I've been busy. Thank you to everyone who has been growing the idea :-)</div><div><br></div><div>My original concern rose out of the fact that it seems we are all being boiled down to a single, insipid?? flavour. Is this an inevitable outcome? (The IS was in capitals for emphasis, not an acronym)</div><div><br></div><div>So then I wondered whether this is the outcome currently desired by the majority of people. And depending on the answer to the first two questions is there any action that could be taken to avoid the outcome?</div><div><br></div><div>In the world of politics the pendulum seems to have begun to swing back from "come together" towards "divide". This is likely to create tension if the online world is swinging in the opposite direction - perhaps the tension is there already?</div><div><br></div><div>Connection with the SDGs? The SDGs are agreed desirable outcomes for the world, but how you achieve the outcome at place A may not be the right answer for place B. This issue came up recently in the Dynamic Coalition Co-ordination meeting on the subject of the term "Best practice" - one person's best practice may be someone else's failure. However if we are, or are supposed to be, all one (ie homogenised) then this becomes a moot point.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, within the topic, I would like to see some debate on the right to say NO! which we seem to be losing very fast. Usually people laugh at me when I suggest this, but I have been continuing to say it. Most young people go through a stage where the most important thing is conformity. At this stage they may have no comprehension of the value of the right to say no. It would be very sad if, when they got to the point of appreciating and needing that right, they found it no longer existed.</div><div><br></div><div>It would be good if the issue could be tackled from several different angles as has occurred here on the list, discussing and exploring rather than prescribing. Felipe (copied above) has a somewhat parallel idea from a technical point of view - between us we have made a similar proposal of these issues to the LACIGF for inclusion in the regional discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes</div><div>Deirdre</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 May 2016 at 12:52, George Sadowsky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">It seems to me that this global homogenisation was already pretty far along already based upon satellite television, movies (Hollywood), jet air travel and a variety of homogenisation factors. All airports look pretty much alike to me. McDonalds restaurants exist in every country I visit. The stores in the GUM Department Store in Moscow are the same ones I find in most shopping malls in the United States.<div><br></div><div>If anything, the Internet allows a display of variety that physical "shelf space" (in a general sense) is not limited. Cyberspace is nearly infinitely stretchable, and the search mechanisms for what you want are enormously better than in physical space.</div><div><br></div><div>I would turn the topic around -- the preservation of diversity (and the need to nurture it) via the Internet, in contrast to existing forces for homogenisation.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>George </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></span><div><br><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>On May 29, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Arsene<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Here are some suggestions and comments:<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><a name="m_-3262245958792065646_m_-6067537365997060666_m_6077868000121194312__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span> </span></span><i><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">Erosion of identity or homogenisation by internet - IS it important? Should it be prevented? Can it be prevented? How?<u></u><u></u></span></i></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">MM: This idea needs better definition. What kind of identity are you talking about? Ethnic? Linguistic? National? Gender? I think the idea that global communication technologies “homogenize” culture is a long-running debate in the communication field, going back to the advent of satellites in the 1970s. it is clear that some smaller languages are declining, but Internet’s research and coordination capabilities often help to preserve them. The idea that technology would lead to a single, homogenized global culture has been completely discredited as far as I can see, but perhaps there are some people who still believe that. Generally, the homogenization charge comes from national elites whose monopoly control of state-based cultural institutions is threatened by the new technology. Many of the threats to minority identities come from these very same elites seeking to achieve a homogenized national culture.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">However, in terms of the substantive issues it raises, this one is potentially the most interesting, if you can formulate some more specific questions you want to address.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><i><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif">-</span></i><i><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">A critical reflexion on the role of civil society in the Internet governance context</span></i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><i><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white"><br></span></i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">MM: another theme we have debated for a long time. I think you would need some more specific issues or questions you would want to discuss.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><i><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif">-</span></i><i><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">ICT for development: Harnessing the role of civil society for access, finance and knowledge city</span></i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial">MM: does “knowledge city” mean what we call “smart cities” here in the U.S.? Those are interesting issues, and often intersect with what is called Internet of Things, but the linkage to _<i>global</i>_ internet governance is very weak. What would be the global angle on this topic?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white"><br><br></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">At this point, I am requesting members of the community to:</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">Make comments on the suggested topics,</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">Help agree on ONE topic (we will not wait for consensus but I just want to feel the room)</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">Help rephrase or reorient (if appropriate) the wording on the chosen topics,</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white"><br><br></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">After we agreed on the above, I will send another call for speakers, panelists, onsite/remote moderators, rapporteurs, etc. Please do get ready if you are planning to be in Mexico to be involved in this workshop in any form. We will need your expertise and experience to share during the workshop.</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white"><br><br></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">Once this is done, then we will submit the workshop proposals to the IGF, using the online form at the IGF Website. Given the remaining time, we have less than 5 days to complete this so that by June 4<sup>th</sup>, we can submit the proposals for consideration to the IGC.</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white"><br><br></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-family:'Arial Narrow',sans-serif;background-color:white">I really count on your contributions within time so we can conclude this process.</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New 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