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<p>+ 1 Well said Bill.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2016 10:23 AM, William Drake
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Hi Arsene
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<div class="">On May 24, 2016, at 15:42, Arsene TUNGALI
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class="">Sorry, but I thought the CSCG (as per Ian's
email) is receiving CS nominations and will report it
to the IGF Secretariat? Please help me undertand.</div>
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<div class="">Sorry, my mailer dumped Ian’s message into the
archive rather than my IGC folder so I’d not seen it when I
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<div class="">That said, I really wish the CSCG had not decided
to do this. I would rather see CS, and indeed all
stakeholders, tell DESA that we will not participate in a
closed meeting, period. Which is what it turns out this will
likely be:</div>
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online/remote participation may not be available for the
retreat; however, outcome documents of the retreat will be
shared for further comment/consultation." <a
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<div class="">I think for DESA to unilaterally organize such a
meeting on a closed basis is a total violation of the
principles of openness and inclusion that the “IGF community,”
such as it is, has worked for ten years to bake into this
process. And bear in mind, this is not an isolated incident.
An uncomfortable amount of the real decision making about the
IGF takes place off stage and hence off the radars of
stakeholders. It seems that as long as people get to go once
a year and do a workshop everyone’s fine with this, but I
remember a time when we actually cared about how the IGF is
run, having been the most vocal proponents of its creation.</div>
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<div class="">There is no reason on earth that an elite group of
people selected by DESA needs to meet in the lovely leafy
beach town of Glen Cove, Long Island in a place with no online
facilities. In mid-July a conference room at the main UN can
surely be found. If this somehow is not possible, a nearby
hotel could probably provide a wired room for less than the
price of Glen Cove. Ok, this wouldn't be a swank, so people
who managed to get their plane tickets paid for wouldn't feel
as much like an inner circle entrusted to chart the direction
of the IGF’s evolution, but boo hoo.</div>
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<div class="">This is not a meeting to negotiate a nuclear arms
treaty. It’s a meeting to talk about the IGF. If it is not
transparent and open to participation then to me it has zero
legitimacy, and civil society should not be undermining what
is has worked for by participating. So I am in complete
agreement with Parminder:</div>
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!important;">However the routine has been for the CS
leadership to make some protest noises but then simply
submit to whatever is offered. Lets for once stand out
ground. Write a strong letter, and if we do not get a
satisfactory response, refuse to go along. UNDESA/ IGF
cannot keep contravening what are now the established
rules of conduct for the IGF.</span></div>
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