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<font face="Verdana">I fully agree with Bill. It is not in keeping
with the stated spirit of the IGF to hold such a sudden meeting,
with unclear motivations and purpose, and methodology... Also, it
is left vague if CS can self select their reps for this meeting.
But before that; what exactly is the purpose, and other things
highlighted by Bill - like what would be the status of the
outcomes. And why written inputs were not invited - which of
course would first require to build an agenda, and a questionnaire
based on it. How closely was MAG involved in planning this? Did CS
reps ask for better participation in this meeting. If so, what was
the response? <br>
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At least on the complete right to self select nominees, which is a
part of IGF's mandate from the UN now after UN GA's adoption of
the report of the WG on IGF improvement - we need to clearly put
our foot down.... I think it is time that CS learns to assert its
legitimate soft power, rather than as always meekly do the 'we
have no option' 'better to engage than not</font><font
face="Verdana"> engage' act. Try saying for once, this is out
bottom-line and if we do not get it we do not participate. You go
ahead. Youd see what gains it brings to the CS's soft power in
this area. However the routine has been for the CS leadership to
make some protest noises but then simply submit to whatever is
offered. Lets for once stand out ground. Write a strong letter,
and if we do not get a satisfactory response, refuse to go along.
UNDESA/ IGF cannot keep contravening what are now the established
rules of conduct for the IGF... I understand that CSCG also wrote
recently to the IGF sect. to explain how a part of </font><font
face="Verdana">selection </font><font face="Verdana">process of </font><font
face="Verdana">CS nomination for MAG was not transparent, which
violates the rules under which the IGF works, and I dont think we
ever got a reply. Instead, we now see a repeat of the process. <br>
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.. parminder <br>
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<div class="">Yes thanks Renata, let’s see what’s in the
forthcoming FAQ. But to make this an open and inclusive process
it’d be good to address the other points we’ve discussed too,
rather than just asking whether there will be online
participation. This initiative was sprung on the world by DESA
based on what considerations and consultations with whom? Why
Glen Cove, of all places? How would any ‘outputs’ be taken up by
whom, where, esp. if one accepts the premise (I don’t) that the
MAG is just an annual program committee. And so on.</div>
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<div class="">It would be good is CS MAG was collaborating with
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<div class="">If the CSCG is not going to coordinate and report
the CS nominations it’d be nice to hear from folks who are
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<div class="">If you look at public MAG list archives,
remote participation/streaming from the retreat has
already been topic of inquiry. No response as of now.</div>
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<div class="">As for the coincidence on dates w/ IGF USA
the next MAG meeting is also 12-14 July so, also a
coincidence, therefore this comment has not been
raised yet. </div>
<div class="">All IGF USA MAG members have the
opportunity to raise it still.</div>
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