<div dir="ltr">Dear Jose Felix,<div>I agree with everyone about looking for solutions for funding, but until that happens I think we must use our ingenuity to make the technology facilitate us, both in the way that we participate in these events, and in the matter of easing communication across languages.</div><div>Many people seem to be unaware that many of these meetings are available to remote participants. I find it difficult to understand how we extol the technology for how it solves the problems of others, and yet are reluctant to use it to solve our own problems.</div><div>Remote participation is NOT "being there" but it has its advantages too. And the more we use it, the more we clamour for it, the more it will improve.</div><div>So let's do both - refine the system including how funding may be accessed, but also be there in large numbers in the chat boxes and sidebars whenever there's a meeting.</div><div>Best wishes</div><div>Deirdre</div><div><br></div><div><div>Estimado José Felix,</div><div>Estoy de acuerdo con todo el mundo trata de buscar soluciones de financiación, peros hasta que eso ocurra creo que debe utilizar nuestro ingenio para hacer que la technologia facilitadores nos, tanto en la forma de participar en estos eventos, y en el asunto de facilitar la comunicación entre idiomas.</div><div>Muchas personas parecen ser no cuenta de que muchas de estas reuniones están disponibles para los asistentes remotos. Me resulta difícil entender cómo nos proclamamos la tecnología de cómo resuelve los problemas de los demás, y sin embargo, son reacios a utilizar a nuestro solucionador de problemas propios.</div><div>La participación a distancia NO es "estar allí" peros su tiene ventajas también. La usamos y cuanto más, más clamamos por ello, más se va a mejorar.</div><div>Ambos vamos a saltar hacia atrás - refinaron el sistema incluyendo cómo se puede acceder a la financiación, peros también estar allí en gran número en las sala de chat y barras laterales cada vez que hay una reunión.</div><div>¡Mis mejores deseos</div><div>Deirdre</div></div><div><br></div><div>(Please excuse my poor Spanish) (Por favor, disculpe mi pobre español)</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 March 2016 at 16:08, José Félix Arias Ynche <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaryn56@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaryn56@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Estoy de acuerdo con el comentario relacionado con la financiación.<br>
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Estoy de acuerdo con Michael Gurstein, sobre este proceso de la ONU,<br>
aparte de ser ridículo es discriminatorio, puedo estar interesado pero<br>
si no tengo la financiación adecuada y oportuna simplemente me<br>
votan...<br>
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Estoy de acuerdo con Sonigitu Ekpe, Una forma perfecta es<br>
institucionalizar CSCG- y todo se resolverá.<br>
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Me pregunto; no hay alguna ONG, que quiera ayudarnos, o tenemos que crear una...<br>
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Cordialmente: José Félix Arias Ynche<br>
Investigador Social Para El Desarrollo Sostenible<br>
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2016-03-31 10:24 GMT-05:00 Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Oh Jean-Louis - repons lan se wi, yes, oui, si, 是, はい, да, نعم فعلا, ndiyo,<br>
> ........<br>
> Will it be possibly to participate remotely?<br>
> Best wishes<br>
> Deirdre<br>
><br>
> On 31 March 2016 at 08:31, Jean-Louis FULLSACK <<a href="mailto:jlfullsack@orange.fr">jlfullsack@orange.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> (french version : se mail sent two days ago)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Cisse<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> for this mail which questions us at least for two reasons :<br>
>><br>
>> - CSs representativeness in the WSIS + process (the Fora, IGF,<br>
>> etc)<br>
>><br>
>> - CS internal exchanges : elective modalities, linguistic<br>
>> diversity (place of French, Spanish, …), programmatic content, etc<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Exactly one month from now on WSIS Forum 2016 will open in Geneva. CS will<br>
>> be present there. It is therefore urgent to determine right now the date,<br>
>> time and place of the CS Plenary which will be in charge of discussions and<br>
>> which will have quite naturally the mandate for deciding priorities and for<br>
>> outlining CS contributions during the different sessions, workshops and<br>
>> other events. I suggest Monday 2nd May evening in an on-site room to be<br>
>> reserved as soon as possible at « WSIS Team » office. Then we should be<br>
>> able to agree upon our daily plenaries to take stock of the situation and<br>
>> nominate our representatives and speakers in the next day sessions.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> It’s time to return to a more human functioning, to rewarding exchanges<br>
>> and to contributions that are marking our priorities and that promote our<br>
>> common goals. This is the way by which CS has been able to maintain its<br>
>> relative group cohesion and to be respected. Or even to valuably contribute<br>
>> to the official documents of the Geneva and the Tunis Summits, even if this<br>
>> contribution was rather limited as our own Declarations specified it.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> CS must absolutely find itself again and recover the friendliness of human<br>
>> exchanges ! Because never can these be achieved exclusively by electronic<br>
>> ways.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Friendly<br>
>><br>
>> Jean-Louis Fullsack<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> > Message du 29/03/16 19:24<br>
>> > De : "<a href="mailto:cisse.kane@bluewin.ch">cisse.kane@bluewin.ch</a>" <<a href="mailto:cisse.kane@bluewin.ch">cisse.kane@bluewin.ch</a>><br>
>> > A : <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>, "Ginger Paque" <<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > Copie à : <a href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>,<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>, <a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > Objet : Re: [governance] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS - WSIS FORUM<br>
>> > HIGHLEVELTRACK FACILITATORS<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> (FRANçAIS PLUS BAS)<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> Dear Ginger and all<br>
>> ><br>
>> > First I wanted to thank and congratulate CSCG leading team for the<br>
>> > efforts in coordinating Civil Society activities.<br>
>> > I see also a common will to improve things. I call you upon to have an<br>
>> > open discussion on the list about these possible improvements.<br>
>> > Apart from financing Civil Society engagement in important foras I<br>
>> > propose that you open a phase were people can make proposals on the<br>
>> > followings<br>
>> > - Representativity of the IGC list: If I am not mistaken we are<br>
>> > exchanging now on IGC list. Is this list representing overall Civil Society<br>
>> > ? I see that there are other Civil Society platforms. Are they all included<br>
>> > in this IGC list ? If not, can we imagine a plaform where all relevant lists<br>
>> > are représented so that we can share information at the same level. I<br>
>> > remember that the question was raised somehow during CSTD nomination process<br>
>> > - language : all these debate are only in english. Can we move to a more<br>
>> > multilingual system in order to be more inclusive ?<br>
>> > - Nomination process to be standardized<br>
>> > - Who should talk on behalf of Civil Society during important gathering<br>
>> > and what would be the format ?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As far as ACSIS is concerned, one of my first actions as new ACSIS chair<br>
>> > was to request to Ian (6 months ago) an then to you a better involvement of<br>
>> > African Civil Society. ACSIS wishes to be considered as the Civil Society<br>
>> > Platform représenting Africa as geographical entity and actively<br>
>> > participate. In this regard, we are ready to assit with website and work on<br>
>> > CSCG initiatives as requested by Ginger.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > With my best regards<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cisse Kane<br>
>> > ACSIS Chair<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> > Cher Ginger et tous<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Je voudrais tout d'abord remercier et féliciter l'équipe de la CSCG pour<br>
>> > ses efforts louables dans la coordination des activités de la Société<br>
>> > Civile.<br>
>> > Je note aussi qu'il y a une volonté générale d'en améliorer le<br>
>> > fonctionnement. Je vous invite donc à ce à ouvrir une discussion sur les<br>
>> > améliorations possibles.<br>
>> > Mis à part le financement de la participation de la Société Civile dans<br>
>> > les foras importants, je propose que vous ouvriez une période de discussion<br>
>> > où il y aura des propositions sur les améliorations possibles. Parmi les<br>
>> > points qui pourraient être soumis à discussion il y a :<br>
>> > - La représentativité de la liste IGC par rapport à la CSCG : sauf<br>
>> > erreur de ma part, nous échangeons présentement uniquement sur la liste IGC.<br>
>> > Est-ce que cette liste est représentative de toute la CSCG ? Apparemment il<br>
>> > y a plusieurs plateformes. Sont-elles toutes représentées dans la liste IGC<br>
>> > ? Si la réponse est négative, peut-on imaginer une plateforme où toutes les<br>
>> > lists importantes sont représentées pour que tout le monde soit au même<br>
>> > niveau d'information? Je me souviens qu'il y a eu un débat sur cette<br>
>> > question lors du lancement des nominations pour la CSTD.<br>
>> > - la question linguistique : tous les débats sur cette list sont<br>
>> > (presque exclusivement) en anglais. Y a-t-il un moyen de d'aller vers un<br>
>> > minimum de multilinguisme dans nos échanges pour favoriser l'inclusion ?<br>
>> > - la standardisation des processus de nomination<br>
>> > - qui doit parler au nom de la Société Civil et selon quel format ?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Concernant ACSIS, l'une des premières actions que j'ai entreprises en<br>
>> > tant que responsable de cette structure est d'écrire à Ian puis à Ginger<br>
>> > pour solliciter une plus grande implication de la Société Civile Africaine.<br>
>> > ACSIS souhaite être considérée comme une des plateformes de la Société<br>
>> > Civile qui représente l'Afrique en tant qu'entité géographique et participer<br>
>> > activement. Dans cette perspective, nous sommes prêts à assister la CSCG<br>
>> > concernant le site Internet et aussi par rapport aux initiatives de la CSCG<br>
>> > selon la demande de Ginger.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Avec mes meilleures salutations.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cissé Kane<br>
>> > Président ACSIS<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> ----Message d'origine----<br>
>> > De : <a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > Date : 29/03/2016 - 15:29 (GMT)<br>
>> > À : <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>, <a href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a><br>
>> > Cc : <a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a><br>
>> > Objet : Re: [governance] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS - WSIS FORUM<br>
>> > HIGHLEVELTRACK FACILITATORS<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> Hello again,<br>
>> ><br>
>> When I mention 'Are there people whose organisations might assist with<br>
>> website, or paid time to work on CSCG initiatives?' I am suggesting that you<br>
>> might ask your employer/university/organisation to allow you to work on CSCG<br>
>> initiatives during normal working hours, so you can get paid for some of the<br>
>> work you do. Some organisations allow, for example 10-20% of an employee's<br>
>> time to be spent on initiatives like this. Ask! You never know, they might<br>
>> say yes. :)<br>
>> ><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> ><br>
>> Ginger<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque<br>
>> DiploFoundation<br>
>><br>
>> DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: <a href="http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>> On 28 March 2016 at 06:32, Ginger Paque <<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>> I strongly support Ian's points. Now we need to widen the discussion and<br>
>>> to add specific suggestions and steps for change.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> Are there people whose organisations might assist with website, or paid<br>
>>> time to work on CSCG initiatives? Think about it. This is close to home--we<br>
>>> are working to get our representatives placed and heard -- we must invest in<br>
>>> the process to select them. If you have ideas or offers, you can post here,<br>
>>> or privately to me or Ian.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> Thanks!<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> Happy (spring/fall) renewal!<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> Ginger<br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque<br>
>>> DiploFoundation<br>
>>><br>
>>> DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: <a href="http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> On 28 March 2016 at 04:30, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <<a href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> > Timely and right discussion.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mar 26, 2016 12:29 AM, "Michael Gurstein" <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I must say that I find this process from the UN (again) completely<br>
>>>>> ridiculous however, I think that this one may be material in allowing for<br>
>>>>> some possibly useful inputs from participants as "facilitators"<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I might for example, be interested in volunteering as a "facilitator"<br>
>>>>> but would be immediately (self) excluded because of the requirement that<br>
>>>>> participants need to be self-funded. There is no way I could find funding<br>
>>>>> for this participation including because the time available is way too short<br>
>>>>> to do any useful fundraising and of course NAm folks are automatically<br>
>>>>> excluded from any of the more general funding envelopes.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> What this type of "invitation" does is to more or less automatically<br>
>>>>> exclude everyone from CS who isn't a trustfundarian, a resident of Geneva or<br>
>>>>> the environs, or a staff member of a major NGO with sufficient discretionary<br>
>>>>> funding. This of course is highly highly discriminatory/exclusionary as we<br>
>>>>> all know and has the effect of drastically skewing results of such processes<br>
>>>>> and thus presumably of their outcomes as well.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> In most cases it doesn't matter as the "opportunity" is of little<br>
>>>>> consequence. In this instance it looks like it may be of more consequence<br>
>>>>> and thus does matter.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Could I suggest that the CSCG lodge an appropriate protest in this<br>
>>>>> regard.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> M<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
>>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ian Peter<br>
>>>>> > Sent: March 24, 2016 1:08 PM<br>
>>>>> > To: Analia Aspis <<a href="mailto:analia.aspis@gmail.com">analia.aspis@gmail.com</a>>;<br>
>>>>> > <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [governance] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS - WSIS FORUM<br>
>>>>> > HIGHLEVELTRACK FACILITATORS<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> attached the document Analia is referring to below.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> From: Analia Aspis<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 1:13 AM<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> To: mailto:<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Subject: [governance] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS - WSIS FORUM HIGHLEVELTRACK<br>
>>>>> FACILITATORS<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Dear members,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The WSIS Forum will take place in Geneva from May 2-6 this year. The<br>
>>>>> Civil Society Co-ordination Group (CSCG) has been asked to forward four<br>
>>>>> names of civil society representatives to be High Level Track Facilitators<br>
>>>>> (joining facilitators from other stakeholder groups).<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The attached document gives details of what is required. Please note:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> High Level Track Facilitators are expected to cover their own fares<br>
>>>>> and accommodation expenses:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The main task of each facilitator is to moderate a high level policy<br>
>>>>> session and provide a written executive summary based on interventions and<br>
>>>>> discussion during the session, while capturing the vision, identifying<br>
>>>>> emerging trends, opportunities and challenges shared by the high level<br>
>>>>> speakers.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Successful candidates must be able to demonstrate previous experience<br>
>>>>> in this area, combined with a good general knowledge of WSIS issues.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Nominations or self-nominations should be sent DIRECTLY to<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:nomcom07@internetgov-cs.org">nomcom07@internetgov-cs.org</a> no later than midnight UTC on Wednesday, April<br>
>>>>> 6.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The nominations should include basic biographical information, plus a<br>
>>>>> brief statement outlining relevant experience in similar moderation/<br>
>>>>> facilitation exercises.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Best,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Analía<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> IGC co-coordinator<br>
>>>>><br>
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>>>>><br>
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