<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Ian,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for suggesting.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with the idea that CS should self manage its own representatives, and I feel that it would make sense to inform the appropriate body regarding this serious issue. Parminder made a rather clear case here, and I presume that all CS should share his concern, and try to put things in their right shoes. So writing something seems a good idea. Adding a suggestion in that writing might be very welcome as well, as it would help to find rapidly an alternative.</div><div><br></div><div>JC</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; 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<div>Is there general agreement we should write something pointing this out and
asking for a process where CS chooses its own reps?</div>
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<div>Perhaps we could ask for UNDESA to forward CS names submitted to us and we
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<div>Interested in other opinions on this.... we would have to move
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="parminder@itforchange.net" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:58 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="ian.peter@ianpeter.com" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">Ian Peter</a> ; <a title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a> ; <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] [bestbits] NOTE - Call for Nomination:
Stakeholder Speakers at the General Assembly High-level Meeting on
WSIS+10</div></div></div>
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NetMundial outcome document says:<br><br></font><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm"><font face="sans-serif"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="4">"Stakeholder representatives appointed to
multistakeholder Internet governance processes should be selected through open ,
democratic, and transparent processes. Different <i><b>stakeholder groups should
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 31 October 2015 01:19 PM, parminder
wrote:<br></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 31 October 2015 12:47 PM, Ian Peter
wrote:<br></div>
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<div>Hi Parminder,</div>
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<div>While I agree with your analysis,</div></div></div></blockquote><br>Ian,
I am not sure you are seeing it the way I am. This is not about 4-5 of us
getting a few minutes from the podium. This is about civil society
representation will be chosen in the IG space. And if you really feel it the
way i do, why would you not agree to write as such to those in charge of the
process. <br><br>
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<div>I don’t think there is any chance at all that this process will be
changed in the short timeframe involved, however strong a protest we make.
</div></div></div></blockquote><br>As I said, it does not matter if it
changes. There is a larger structural point here. On the other hand, I am
about 90 percent sure that if all groups involved in CSCG writes that this is
not right, and please let us do our own selection they would agree. Civil
society seems to have forgotten to leverage its legitimacy, and we seem to
cave in to just about everything, a being beyond us to influence. This is not
how it should be at all, <br><br>
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<div>So my own thoughts are that it is probably best to get involved, and
from that position make a strong statement that the process is flawed and
problematic from our point of view.</div></div></div></blockquote><br>Are you
saying that the chosen speakers will speak from the podium that this process
is flawed, and in this way? Please be clear. But if we are ready to have our
speakers speak about it at the high level meeting, why would we not want to
write about it to the co-facilitators and the concerned UN bureaucracy? Isnt
that much simpler, and at least have the potential of meaningful
impact.<br><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:E4640F478CC849B8A547991B3DB585D2@Toshiba" type="cite">
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so we are able to correct some excesses from our point of view, but
certainly not all.</font></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Again, did not understand. What excesses, and how
are they corrected?</font></font><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">However
that’s just a personal point of view. We have just opened a discussion
on this in CSCG and decisions may be quite different.</div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">One
problem is that CSCG as such cannot nominate. Those who can according to
this process are: </div></div></div></div></blockquote><br>These criteria are
for those individuals who want to apply to be on the multistakeholder
selection committee. My proposal is to disassociate CS selection from this
multistakeholder selection process, and ask for CSCG to do it (I find it
highly likely that they'd agree). So, the issue of the creteria you mention
simply does not apply to the proposal I am making and seeking your and other
people's views on. <br><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><font style="face: "Times" roman?="" new="">Non-governmental organizations in
consultative status with the Economic and Social Council • Organizations
accredited to the World Summit on the Information Society held in Geneva
(2003) and Tunis (2005) • Organizations accredited to the WSIS Forum held
from 2011 to 2015 • Organizations with observer status with the United
Nations Conference on Trade and Development • Attendees of the UNESCO
WSIS+10 - ICT4D Conference or the UNESCO WSIS - Connecting the Dots
Conference • Organizations accredited to the Financing for Development (FFD)
process • Organizations accredited to the United Nations Sustainable
Development Summit 2015 • Organizations already accredited to the WSIS+10
process (July and October meetings)</font></div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">So
if CSCG as such is involved, it will have to be with our nominations as
representatives of civil society organisations who do fit one at least of
the above criteria.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><br>I am not asking
for the CSCG to get involved with this multistakeholder selection process. On
the contrary, I am asking for us to disassociate from it. <br><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">Another
problem is that the time frame for selecting speakers is roughly that of IGF
– and with a 15 hour estimated commitment it may not be easy to find people
able to represent us. I believe that if we are involved we should try to
fill both civil society slots on the selection panel. But that will have to
be as two separate nominations (backed by CSCG) from different CS
groups.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><br>Again, you are speaking of
CSCG getting involved with the current process, which is fundamentally
different from my proposal to ask for CS nominations to be taken off the
multistakeholder process, and be taken over by CSCG itself. Same about the
rest of your email below.<br><br><br>Ian, lets look at it in two parts. Do the
involved CS groups agree that other stakeholders - big business, gov,
ICANN/ ISOC - should not be involved in selection of its reps? Yes or no. If
yes, then let us that put down in a letter. I am happy to fight the case, but
if we have such a position and want to fight the case. We cannot keep citing
expediency for just everything. But if we are ok with such a process, that is
a different matter, and let different groups and individuals give their
views... Their has to be some limit to - we agree it is wrong,
but....<br><br>parminder <br><br>
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if we do nominate representatives on the selection panel, we have to do so
this week. </div></div>
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if I may add a further factor – I will be stepping down as the Independent
Chair of CSCG shortly, as my term expires soon. I will not be standing
again, as various factors are making it difficult for me to maintain an
active involvement in these forums; and I think it is time for one of our
very talented (and younger) members to take over. CSCG is currently
drafting an EOI to seek a new independent Chair, with the aim of opening
that process before IGF so that people get a chance to discuss it while many
are present in Brazil. So the replacement process hopefully will complete by
the end of this year.</div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">So
in these circumstances – it would be good to hear from anyone who has an
interest in working with CSCG as part of this particular process; I don’t
necessarily want to be involved if we have good reps able to consult with
CSCG members. If anyone is interested in this and wants to contact me
privately to assist in this way, I would be happy to discuss further
and approach CSCG as regards their involvement.</div></div>
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for opening up a discussion on this. </div></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="parminder@itforchange.net" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" moz-do-not-send="true">parminder</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:32 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a> ; <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] NOTE - Call for Nomination: Stakeholder
Speakers at the General Assembly High-level Meeting on
WSIS+10</div></div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><font face="Verdana">Please see the below announcement.<br><br>It seems that there
is a strong effort to institutionalise a system of civil society reps for
speaker roles, but perhaps later also for more substantive roles,
</font>being selected by multistakeholder committees, meaning that big
business and technical community gets a veto over civil society rep
selection. (Do remember here that 'technical community' here is not that odd
free and open software group volunteering their time in supporting
government schools or the such. This term is accepted in the IG world now to
denote those who work for and represent organisations engaged with technical
governance of the Internet, and thus represent a governance status quo
group. The semantic confusion about the term, as being people with technical
capacities, is deliberate in order to utilise a certain legitimacy for what
is a power based governance system.)<br><br>The structural problem with such
a process should be obvious.<br><br>This is not acceptable for me, my
organisation and the networks that I work with. Civil society has
traditionally been fiercely protective of its independence, which includes
the right to choose its own nominees (for instance, any efforts at national
govs 'clearing' civil society reps from their countries has been strongly
resisted at the UN and other global governance levels). I think we
need to write back to those responsible for this process that , thanks but
no thanks, you tell us how many CS sepakers you want and we have a process
of selection for CS reps and we will deliver the names by the date you
want.<br><br>May I appeal to Ian and the CSCG to frame and send such a
letter to WSIS process co-facilitators, and the concerned UN bureaucracy, at
the earliest. Before these mentioned deadlines pass.<br><br>Meanwhile, let
me give some background on this....<br><br>Just Net Coalition did write a
letter addressed to the co-facilitators against such a process of big
business sitting over decisions on CS reps. It seems to have had no
effect.<br><br>A few years back, there was an attempt by a certain group in
the IGF MAG, led by the then Exec Director of the IGF, Markus Kummer, to
institute a method of selections of non gov MAG members by a committee of
older non gov MAG members. I was able to attend MAG meetings in those days
as a Special Advisor to the chair. I opposed such a process of CS nominee
selection by a committee that included big business and technical
community (read the ICANN/ ISOC system). I was able to get the support
of a few CS MAG members in the room, and I distinctly remember Graciala,
Katitza, and Foaud in this regard, and perhaps a person or two more whose
names may have dropped from my memory (my apologies).... And because of the
CS opposition this problematic move had to be abandoned. Now it seems
to be coming back from another door, and we need to stand up against it once
again.<br><br>Again, we have very little turnaround time here.
<br><br>parminder <br><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 30 October 2015 08:04 PM, Carolina
Rossini wrote:<br></div>
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----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">NGO News</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ngonews@un.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ngonews@un.org</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Oct 30,
2015 at 10:14 AM<br>Subject: [NGO <a href="News:]">News:]</a> Call for Nomination: Stakeholder
Speakers at the General Assembly High-level Meeting on WSIS+10<br>To: <a href="mailto:crossini@publicknowledge.org" moz-do-not-send="true">crossini@publicknowledge.org</a><br><br><br>
<div><p><strong>Deadlines:
</strong></p><p><span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>8 November 2015: Apply for
Selection Committee</strong></span></p><p><span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0)"><strong>12 November 2015: Apply for
Speaking Roles</strong></span></p><p><strong>The General Assembly High-level Meeting on the overall review
of the implementation of the outcomes of the World Summit on the
Information Society will take place on 15-16 December 2015 at the UN
Headquarters in New York.</strong></p><p>This high-level meeting will provide an opportunity for in-depth
discussions on important issues in the implementation of the WSIS
outcomes, including the progress, gaps and challenges, as well as areas
for future actions.</p><p><strong>To apply to speak at the High-level Meeting, please complete
the form available <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ffRSw8C5UGYRKrzdpCiWnyc2EMVTbmZ1SVGNnhs0FcQ/viewform" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">here</a></strong>. Applications will
be accepted from <strong>30 October to</strong> <strong>12 November
2015</strong>.</p><p><strong>A Selection Committee will be established</strong> in order to
ensure broad and inclusive participation of stakeholders in the high-level
meeting. Applications to the Selection Committee will be accepted from
<strong>30 October to 8 November 2015</strong>. To learn more about the
Selection Committee, please see the Terms of Reference <span>by <a href="http://csonet.org/content/documents/WSIS+10_ToR_Steering_Committee.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">clicking on this link</a></span>.
<strong>To apply to participate in the stakeholder Selection Committee,
please complete the form available </strong><a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1pzCRKLri16XUMNYNA9QECFnhCrO9Ub7ex0Ho2vdYp2k/viewform" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><strong>here</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Background</strong></p><p>In December of 2003, the world came together in Geneva at the World
Summit on Information Society (WSIS) to declare a "common desire and
commitment to build a people-centred, inclusive and development-oriented
Information Society," and ushered in an era of harnessing the power of
information and communication technology to contribute to the achievement
of the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). The resulting Geneva Plan of
Action established targets and the eleven action lines, which guide
development in specific areas.</p><p>The second phase of WSIS, conducted in Tunis in 2005, built upon the
achievements of the Geneva Plan, with the resulting Tunis Agenda
addressing additional issues, such as financing and internet governance.
Paragraph 111 of the Tunis Agenda, endorsed by the General Assembly in
resolution 60/252, requested the General Assembly to undertake the overall
review of the implementation of the outcomes of WSIS in 2015. In
response, the General Assembly in resolution 68/302, decided that the
overall review will be concluded by a two-day high-level meeting of the
General Assembly, to be preceded by an intergovernmental process that also
takes into account inputs from all relevant stakeholders of
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