<div dir="ltr">As a serendipitous post script to my earlier message -<div>Latin America and the Caribbean are currently celebrating the fact that the face of Ida Holz, an internet pioneer, has been chosen for a postage stamp in Uruguay.</div><div>We ask that surveillance be "proportionate". Should our response to the technology be proportionate too?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 October 2015 at 08:54, Suresh Ramasubramanian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">As you say, there is a huge temptation to say yes.<div><br></div><div>There are also alternatives - even internet based ones, rather than postal mail - that are more privacy conscious and that everyone is perfectly welcome to / encouraged to use.</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 29-Oct-2015, at 5:58 PM, Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">This is why the "human right" that concerns me most at the moment is the right to say no, the right to choose, the right to differ.<div>Somewhere the sense that we have the freedom NOT to click has got lost in a compulsion that "this is the only way". "If I don't have Facebook I'll lose touch with my family." "This is a 'must have' app". These statements are still NOT TRUE, and we should not allow them to become true.</div><div>Admittedly when recently I posted a letter to Barbados, just over 100 miles away, I was told that the letter would arrive "in the next two weeks", but it did arrive.</div><div>Without the internet the selection procedure which gave this thread its subject would not have been possible within the time, but it would still have been possible. Might have taken a year or two, but we could have done it. :-)</div><div>We are supposed to be using the tool, not the tool using us.</div><div>We have a choice and we should exercise it before it atrophies and disappears.</div><div>Deirdre<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 October 2015 at 02:29, Suresh Ramasubramanian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Those are applications that <div><br></div><div>1. You choose to install</div><div>2. You choose to specifically grant those permissions to</div><span><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 29-Oct-2015, at 11:28 AM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Avast CEO shared analysis done by company of top 100 applications on Android in the month of September.<br><br>As per the analysis, 99 per cent of these applications have entire control of mobile phone which means they remotely operate phone as a user does and 92 per cent can view network connections.<br><br>One out of 10 of top 100 applications can record audio and take pictures and videos and 9 out of 10 are able to read storage content which can modify or delete, as per the report.</p><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></span></div><br>____________________________________________________________<br>
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