<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32990"><span>Dear Izumi,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32990"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33258">Thanks for detail, I liked it and decided to adopt the same way in our up-coming meeting/events.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32990"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32990"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33224">Thanks and Regards</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32990"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32990">Imran Ahmed Shah</div><br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32989"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32988"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32987"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_32986"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33225"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33115"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33317"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33316">From:</span></b> Izumi AIZU <iza@anr.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "governance@lists.igcaucus.org" <governance@lists.igcaucus.org>; "<bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>" <bestbits@lists.bestbits.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 10 September 2015, 13:22<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] Pattaya Key Messages on the WSIS+10 Review: Voices from the Asia-Pacific Region<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33111"><br><div id="yiv9207222366"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33114"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33113"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33112">Hi,</div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33232"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33231">2015-09-10 15:59 GMT+09:00 Imran Ahmed Shah <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv9207222366gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr"><span>Yes, I was also thinking that how it would be difficult for either making real-time discussion [in which one have to be remain an active listener to others speaker and respond to what other have spoke] and documenting the notes at same time. I thing everyone was noting the abstract of his/er</span> own discussion once have spoken. Notes taking would also have been interactive and could be further collaborative if the group members also take part as a reviewer and editor as third person, so if person A has missed some sentences, person C or D could complete or correct it.</div></div></div></blockquote><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33230"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33233"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33235"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33234">Yes, sometimes one first takes the floor and make comments, other one takes short notes, as much as s/he could, then after finishing the comments, she or he gets back to the note just taken and corrects and adds what was said, or intended to say.</div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33236"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline;"><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33238"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33237">This makes more guarantee for accuracy, instead of reading the real-time scripts on the screen taken by some stenographers, finding some errors but have no means to correct, at least on the fly.</div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33239"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline;"><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33240"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline;"></div> </div><blockquote class="yiv9207222366gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33244"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33243"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33242"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33241"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33246">By the way how the final message (Final-Pattaya-Key-Messages-2015.pdf) was developed? is it developed in the same way live contribution and interaction or only few people finalized the summary document?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33249"><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">It is also documented in the later half of our Collective Notes, but it is not easy to follow with the current (lack of) editorial works. We should perhaps have Outline or Executive Summary and Table of Contents linked to corresponding sections.</div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33248">We were broken into 6 working groups with each subject, and one rep from each group was selected to form an drafting group for the final message, they worked late into night, presented the draft next morning, round of sessions on each para and sentences, drafting group met again, finalized the text, one more round of discussion, online approval.</div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">That was the rough process.</div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9207222366gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">izumi</div><br clear="none"></div><div> </div><blockquote class="yiv9207222366gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33254"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33253"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441860828872_33252"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks and Regards</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Imran</div><br clear="none"> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Izumi AIZU <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:iza@anr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:iza@anr.org">iza@anr.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Imran Ahmed Shah <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> "<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; "<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 10 September 2015, 11:25<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] Pattaya Key Messages on the WSIS+10 Review: Voices from the Asia-Pacific Region<br clear="none"> </font> </div><div><div class="yiv9207222366h5"> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;">Thanks Imran,</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">yes, making real-time discussion and document at the same time was a very challenging, but also rewarding experiment - everyone was able to participate in the discussion, could see the other groups work in progress during the break-out Working Group sessions in real time, etc, etc.</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">Instead of chatting or tweeting, all are documented in a single file, or linked file, so that we became much more structured and logical, could stay more focused.</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">Making a poll in the middle of sessions was also quite effective, putting photos were fun and added more color.</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">Worth to continue this kind of experience.</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">izumi</div><div><br clear="none"><div>2015-09-10 14:57 GMT+09:00 Imran Ahmed Shah <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>Thanks Izumi for sharing the discussion document of Interactive and Interesting Sessions.</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>Regards</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>Imran</span></div><br clear="none"> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Izumi AIZU <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:iza@anr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:iza@anr.org">iza@anr.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> governance <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; "<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 10 September 2015, 8:01<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [governance] Pattaya Key Messages on the WSIS+10 Review: Voices from the Asia-Pacific Region<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><div><div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;">Hi, (Sorry for multi-posting),</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">Some 38 people had a 3-day meeting in Pattaya on the WSIS+10 review and produced the following "Key Messages".</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;">Having seen no post [yet], I am tempted to share the link here as one of the participants of the meeting.</div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.wsis10.asia/">http://www.wsis10.asia/</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It was an interesting exercise, and most of the process of the discussions are documented here.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dPU7Vv4W6hcRtOopMxXn6H_2e3LUiN4ckLdVv3FPQoQ/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dPU7Vv4W6hcRtOopMxXn6H_2e3LUiN4ckLdVv3FPQoQ/edit</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>By using Google Doc, we were making and sharing realtime notes during the meeting, was very productive to make it an inclusive meeting in my view.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Many thanks to the organizers!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>izumi</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:small;"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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