<p dir="ltr">Dear Willi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks. I am not sure I see what you're referring to as antgonism between my two paragraphs. However regaring the overall content of your message I would like to clarify that I didn't mean to claim that CS would reach its goals without having to fight, or will have its views effectively taken into account without struggles.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The outcome of a multistakeholder or a multilateral process will be necessarily different from that of a monostakeholder or a unilateral process, respectively. Then the question for us is not how we can get an outcome that will fully meet our monostakeholder desiderata but rather an outcome that will be farthest possible from the other stakeholders' peculiar desiderata/agenda and closest possible to ours. But of course the notion of possibility here will be dependent on power structure, meaning there will have to be fights and struggles.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Then my own take (which we don't all have to agree on) is that our energy is better spent devising ways to build strategic alliances issue area by issue area so as to advance CS friendly agenda than worrying about what some governments say about or want from other governments (or things of that kind). Idem for businesses. Noting that not all governments of the world, nor businesses, necessarily have the same interests on all the issues.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Mawaki<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 13, 2015 6:51 PM, "willi uebelherr" <<a href="mailto:willi.uebelherr@riseup.net">willi.uebelherr@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 13/07/2015 um 13:31 schrieb Mawaki Chango:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yes, being hung up on the "equal footing" as an end in itself may also be<br>
kind of ideological. That governments want equal footing among themselves<br>
when they come together to address a set of issues (or when they are all<br>
legitimately concerned by such issues) is largely understandable, as they<br>
are formally similar organizations/entities.<br>
<br>
In the context of a global multistakeholderism, particularly in relation to<br>
public policy, what is most important for other stakeholders of a different<br>
form such as CS is to make sure their views and contributions are taken<br>
seriously, given due consideration and factored into the decision making<br>
process. Now, I'm sure there are various ways to achieve this depending on<br>
the setting and ultimately who can sway the decisions to be made, from the<br>
hard to the soft end of the arrangements spectrum (to use Wolfgang's<br>
terminology in this setting), even when CS* is not sitting directly at the<br>
table. It's just a practice that needs to be established, enshrined (and<br>
WSIS itself has enabled that in a typically intergovernmental process -- a<br>
summit); we may just need to be a little more imaginative about it going<br>
forward.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Dear Mawaki,<br>
<br>
i am sure. that you know, what you write. But why you construct such antagonism between your 1. and 2. paragraph? The "power" groups like governments and privat enterprises never like to have an overview about the basic needs for the different "stakeholder" groups. And you know it. And in the Netmundial declaration we can see it, that all this different positions are lost.<br>
<br>
We should not make an illusion about the working intentions. We have to understand the interests, the existential basis, the root of her activities. Then we understand all this theater.<br>
<br>
many greetings, willi<br>
Fortaleza, Brasil<br>
<br>
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