<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you, I see your point here. It is quite possible for this talk of cybersecurity to be a stalking horse for surveillance and repression - in the political context in which the discussion takes place.<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 10-Jul-2015, at 7:34 am, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au" class="">dave@difference.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">As made clear in article 12, if you want to look at it from a human rights perspective, the preservation of privacy is a primary justification FOR cyber-securirty. Focussing on security to the point that it decreases privacy is bad from a human rights perspective - but as you point out, a regular part of cyber-security dialog is to talk in terms of balance, by which is meant how much should privacy be compromised in the cause of security. So when the emphasis shifts from human rights to cyber-security in general, human rights advocates (and privacy advocates specifically) have some cause for worry, just as a focus on ‘national security’, while theoretically compatible with human rights, gives some cause to worry about surveillance, increased search and seizure, and other weakening of human rights.</span><br style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">So I would not cite any emphasis on cyber security as harmful or bad on the face of it<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"> </span><span style="font-family: GillSans; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It is not intrinsically bad, but an emphasis on cyber-security over human rights is a legitimate cause for concern.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>