<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Jean-Christophe -<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Unfortunately, there is an actual TLD called .ngo - in which your theglobaljournal.ngo does not exist.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So - there is now an inconsistency - there’s one set of ngo domains hosted on “the real dns” and another totally different set of ngo domains hosted on your open root or whatever. And there is zero connectivity or consistency between the two.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">They affectively exist in parallel universes, completely unreachable from each other.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> theglobaljournal.ngo</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;; global options: +cmd</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;; Got answer:</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 22896</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;; QUESTION SECTION:</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;theglobaljournal.ngo.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>IN<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>A</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">;; AUTHORITY SECTION:</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">ngo.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>899<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>IN<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>SOA<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>a0.nic.ngo. noc.afilias-nst.info. 1000002722 10800 3600 2764800 900</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23-Jun-2015, at 7:05 pm, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal <<a href="mailto:jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net" class="">jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Optima; border-spacing: 0px; font-size: inherit;">Not sure to understand what kind of demonstration you are aiming at.</span></div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="">You dig the wrong place, and do not pay enough attention. Did I indicate that <a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a> was located at theglobaljournal.ngo (by Open-Root)? No. A domain name that was created back in 2010 with a .net and is up since then was not set - sadly- by using Open-Root. I regret it. To shift it in the future is a possibility. Thanks to your email, I'll think about it seriously.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I precisely indicated that all my computers and devices were sending their requests for resolving name to IP, not any longer to an ICANN affiliate but to Open-Root. I am very happy with that change, as Open-Root responds faster than my former ICANN resolver. Then, I invited anyone to do so by changing their DNS settings in their own device and computers. So maybe you are able to enter my personal settings and penetrate my computers to check that, and maybe prove to the entire world that I am some kind of a "liar" - please provide us the results of your kind investigation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One additional information regarding the .ngo : it will be up and running - NGOs currently choosing their domain name (for free) with a .ngo in the Open Root - sometime in July. We are working hard on this as you can imagine. But now you can also dig + trace Open Root and tell everyone in the list if Louis Pouzin exists or if he and Open-Root are a fake.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So unless you wish to simply discredit any party at the conversation table, I am not sure what to think about that last email of yours.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Everyone will appreciate. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">JC</div>
<br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Le 23 juin 2015 ŕ 15:10, McTim a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian<br class=""><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" class="">suresh@hserus.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">What you call a fairyland is the reality that you happen to be using to even<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">be able to send this email.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Indeed, I see no evidence of an alt-root in this dig + trace:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> <a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a> MX +trace<br class="">;; global options: printcmd<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://c.root-servers.net/" class="">c.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://a.root-servers.net/" class="">a.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://h.root-servers.net/" class="">h.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://k.root-servers.net/" class="">k.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://g.root-servers.net/" class="">g.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://d.root-servers.net/" class="">d.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://f.root-servers.net/" class="">f.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://j.root-servers.net/" class="">j.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://m.root-servers.net/" class="">m.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://e.root-servers.net/" class="">e.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://b.root-servers.net/" class="">b.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://l.root-servers.net/" class="">l.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">. 10431 IN NS <a href="http://i.root-servers.net/" class="">i.root-servers.net</a>.<br class="">;; Received 228 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) in 45 ms<br class=""><br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://h.gtld-servers.net/" class="">h.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://e.gtld-servers.net/" class="">e.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://m.gtld-servers.net/" class="">m.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://c.gtld-servers.net/" class="">c.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://k.gtld-servers.net/" class="">k.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://g.gtld-servers.net/" class="">g.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://j.gtld-servers.net/" class="">j.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://b.gtld-servers.net/" class="">b.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://d.gtld-servers.net/" class="">d.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://f.gtld-servers.net/" class="">f.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://i.gtld-servers.net/" class="">i.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://l.gtld-servers.net/" class="">l.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">net. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://a.gtld-servers.net/" class="">a.gtld-servers.net</a>.<br class="">;; Received 507 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(<a href="http://c.root-servers.net/" class="">c.root-servers.net</a>) in 46 ms<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://a.dns.gandi.net/" class="">a.dns.gandi.net</a>.<br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://b.dns.gandi.net/" class="">b.dns.gandi.net</a>.<br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 172800 IN NS <a href="http://c.dns.gandi.net/" class="">c.dns.gandi.net</a>.<br class="">;; Received 228 bytes from 192.54.112.30#53(<a href="http://h.gtld-servers.net/" class="">h.gtld-servers.net</a>) in 122 ms<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 600 IN MX 10 <a href="http://spool.mail.gandi.net/" class="">spool.mail.gandi.net</a>.<br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 600 IN MX 50 <a href="http://fb.mail.gandi.net/" class="">fb.mail.gandi.net</a>.<br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 10800 IN NS <a href="http://c.dns.gandi.net/" class="">c.dns.gandi.net</a>.<br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 10800 IN NS <a href="http://b.dns.gandi.net/" class="">b.dns.gandi.net</a>.<br class=""><a href="http://theglobaljournal.net/" class="">theglobaljournal.net</a>. 10800 IN NS <a href="http://a.dns.gandi.net/" class="">a.dns.gandi.net</a>.<br class="">;; Received 142 bytes from 173.246.98.1#53(<a href="http://a.dns.gandi.net/" class="">a.dns.gandi.net</a>) in 39 ms<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">That chinese proposal is not a technical one - it is a smokescreen for a<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">political move.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Censorship seems to be the motivation.<br class=""><br class=""> Any civil society that actually winds up supporting it<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">finds itself endorsing a multilateral model where civil society, industry or<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">other non government stakeholders are shut off from decision making.<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">If that is your intent, then please do say so in slightly clearer terms than<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">you have so far.<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">If you are looking for a chinese proposal to scale the root, the one<br class="">described here seems to be less offensive to CS sensibilities:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20141107_secure_unowned_hierarchical_anycast_root_name_service_and_apologia/" class="">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20141107_secure_unowned_hierarchical_anycast_root_name_service_and_apologia/</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Cheers,<br class=""><br class="">McTim<br class="">"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br class="">route indicates how we get there." 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