<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Thanks McTim</span></span></span></span></span></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>As indicated quoting was not endorsing. Someone will probably forward to the authors your information regarding Somalia. I am sure they will also note that you consider their idea as a "seemingly unworkable solution" - no surprise to them, I imagine. On a conceptual level their solution is not stupid or unfair. </div><div><br></div><div>Still technically speaking, the Chinese proposal is worth to explore, not to mention the fact that at some point the choice won't be ours to accept or refuse whether China and a few countries suddenly decide to handle their own ccTLD, root and inter-root outside the US multi-stakeholder fairyland.</div><div><br></div><div>On a personal view, the lists might be happy to support the current scheme (where one sole government leads over IG) and express concerns over a multitude of governments having their due say. That would still be somehow part of the paradox civil society participants live in. Whatever we think of the concept of nation, or the role of governments, the digital planet can only work with them. And not just with one of them. This is why you have the tide coming up our asymmetric path.</div><div><br></div><div>JC</div>
<br><div><div>Le 23 juin 2015 à 12:28, McTim a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global<br>Journal <<a href="mailto:jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net">jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">More on roots.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It has been interesting to discuss alternative ideas regarding the way we<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">look and envision the future of DNS management (governance).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Here is a presentation made by Binxing Fang and Xiaohua Chen, few days ago<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in Cuba. It provides a clear view of a Chinese challenging innovative (at<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">least it will be new to many) proposal regarding DNS issues.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It introduces the idea of an Inter-Root at ccTLD level. A first step toward<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a "self-governed architecture for DNS Root Zone resolution".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.ventanapolitica.cu/sites/default/files/inter-rootchina.ppt">http://www.ventanapolitica.cu/sites/default/files/inter-rootchina.ppt</a><br></blockquote><br><br>a seemingly unworkable solution to 3 non-existent threats.<br><br>For example, the ppt suggests that Somalia has been removed from the root.<br><br>looking at nic.so proves that this is not the case.<br><br><br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">All of that, in addition to the Open-Root's approach of the root zone issue,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">indicates that the current DNS governance, under<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">USG/NTIA/ICANN/IANA/VERISIGN is soon to belong to the past as the sole<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">monopolistic scheme to handle DNS root zone issues. It also clearly shows<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that technicalities are not there to stop such a tide, as technicalities are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">very manageable - at least easier to handle than political issues.<br></blockquote><br>If we are to do a fork-lift upgrade to the addressing scheme of the<br>entire Internet, this is not the one to choose. The one that actually<br>needs doing is IPv6 transition.<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">We have plenty of options at hand, whether by introducing one or several of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the following:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- an Inter-Root mechanism (rather smart)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- a competition among root zone management systems allowing users to make<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">their mind for registering domain name, and resolving name to IP requests.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- a class system for roots, similar to what WIPO did for brands, so that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">resolution is set with automatisms.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- a result page for similar domain names registered in a diversity of roots,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that could include a class system (as mentioned above)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There is little doubt that things are changing and that no one can stop the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">digital reforming tide. At the end of the day, the US might lose more thanks<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to its rigid approach in Internet Governance in preserving its "natural"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">digital privileges, for the sake of its security and commercial interests.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Chinese proposal is consistent with two key political statements:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- See the note by the UN Secretary-General UN to the General Assembly (June<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2013) as per the work of the "Group of Governmental Experts on Developments<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in the field of Information and Telecommunications in the context of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">International Security". "State sovereignty and international norms and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">principles that flow from sovereignty apply to State conduct of ICT-related<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">activities, and to their jurisdiction over ICT infrastructure within their<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">territory."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- Read the opening statement by Xi Jinping, chairman of the first World<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Internet Conference (and China Premier) in november 2014: "China is willing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to work together with other countries in the world, in the spirit of mutual<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">respect and trust. We together deepen international cooperation, respect for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">sovereignty of the network, maintain network security, and build a peaceful,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">secure, open and cooperative network. We hope to establish a multilateral,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">democratic, transparent international governance system."<br></blockquote><br><br>multilateralism is not something this list will likely get behind.<br><br><br>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>