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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 22 May 2015 08:01 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr">jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr</a> wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:151798748.6070.1432305102557.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d15"
type="cite">
<p>Dear Michael and all</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The "original sin" of WSIS was the decision of UNGA (or
UN-ECOSOC?) to entrust the ITU the management/oordination of a
"society centered" high level and global event. ITU hasn't got
any capacity in societal issues and this was fairly known by all
(except the UN HQ ? :-) <br>
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Of course it was known to everyone. It was the US that insisted it
be the ITU and not UNESCO, which due to its social expertise in info
issues was a natural contender. You can read about this bit of
history in Sean O Siochru's 'Will the real WSIS please stand up?'
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gaz.sagepub.com/content/66/3-4/203.abstract">http://gaz.sagepub.com/content/66/3-4/203.abstract</a> .<br>
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Why, because US was still cut up with UNESCO over NWICO issues and
did not want WSIS to begin stirring up those fires again -
basically, not bring up issues like communication rights and
stuff....<br>
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It is a pity how US unleashes such dictatorial decisions on the
world community whose consequneces the world have to suffer for
decades afterwards (Iraq invasion and ISIS for instance). Maybe,
that is how anyone who is powerful will work... The bigger problem
however is how US has been able to ingratiate itself so successfully
with the civil society in the IG area, that the same US that foisted
ITU in a leadership position for information society issues can at
will term it into the villain, in the WCIT Dubai plus way.... And
the obedient global media and global civil society marches in tune
to the music of the Pied Piper..<br>
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That reminds me to forward an article on New World Information and
Communication Order and WSIS that I received today.... Fortunately,
counter hegemonic views and the resistance are still not dead and
swept away.... <br>
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<pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ipsnews.net/2015/05/opinion-new-world-information-order-internet-and-the-global-south-part-i/">http://www.ipsnews.net/2015/05/opinion-new-world-information-order-internet-and-the-global-south-part-i/</a>
New World Information Order, Internet and the Global South
By Branislav Gosovic
Branislav Gosovic worked at the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), the U.N. Environment Programme (UNEP), the South Commission and was Officer-in-Charge at the South Centre in Geneva (1990-2005).
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parminder<br>
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<p>Best regards</p>
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<p>Jean-Louis</p>
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<p>BTW : Who among our readers will attend the next week WSIS
Forum ? I'll be there and T'd be happy to meet some members of
the list </p>
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<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;
border-left: #ff0000 2px solid;">> Message du 22/05/15 11:13<br>
> De : "Michael Gurstein" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"><gurstein@gmail.com></a><br>
> A : "'Bertrand de La Chapelle'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com"><bdelachapelle@gmail.com></a>, "'parminder'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a><br>
> Copie à : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>, "'Kleinwächter,
Wolfgang'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de"><wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de></a><br>
> Objet : RE: [governance] On WSIS+10 (was Re: Why?)<br>
> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
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mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">My reading of WSIS is that
the original intention was to explore how the benefits of
this marvellous new technology might be shared globally
and particularly through the application of ICTs to the
issues/opportunities for economic and social development
particularly in Less Developed Countries. The linking of
the governance aspects with the developmental/social
justice aspects was to ensure that however the Internet
was to be “governed” it would be such as to ensure the
means for the widest possible dispersal of benefits.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">There was however a
splitting of emphases in WSIS with an ultimate emphasis on
“governance” at the expense of “development” as was
strongly promoted by the Developed Countries (and those
elements of Civil Society which chose to focus on a free
speech agenda rather than a social justice agenda). This
ensured that the original objectives for “governance” of
the Internet would be lost to be replaced initially by
essentially technical issues related to “governance” on
the one side and ICT for Development initiatives
undertaken (and thus doomed) by proceeding without an
integration into a broad based and supportive policy
framework, on the other. The failure of the UN (and
development agencies and others) to support a role for
grassroots users and ICT practitioners in the WSIS process
significantly reduced the leverage which the
“developmental (and social justice) agenda” might have had
and directly contributed to this unfortunate result.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">The subsequent development
of parallel but highly unequal tracks for “governance” and
for “development/social justice” has allowed the
“development” agenda to slip more or less off the radar
for the multilaterals and the bilaterals even while the
opportunities and risks for the “development” agenda have
been accelerating. The trivial way in which “development”
is addressed at the IGF is one manifestation of this as is
the formulaic and ritualistic (and essentially out of
touch) way in which the “developmental” side has been
dealt with in the various UNESCO and ITU and other UN
forums up to and including the WSIS +10 process and the
somewhat bizarre focussing on the “Data Revolution” (the
“revolution” is of course about a lot more than simply
“data”) in the MDG/SDG processes.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">So to answer your question
Bertrand if I had my druthers (and to be a bit more
inclusive of what I would like to “unite”) I would like
to see a WSIS +10 which dealt with the reality of ICTs/the
Internet in the context of social justice and here I would
include not simply LDC’s but the increasing numbers of
those being “excluded” in Developed Countries as
well—specifically I would have it (and with the active
involvement and promotion by CS) address issues of growing
ICT/Internet based economic inequality, social exclusion,
rural de-stabilization, youth unemployment and precarious
work, linguistic and cultural homogenization, ICT induced
job destruction, and mass surveillance among others. I
would want to see the WSIS +10 process reintegrate the
governance and development/social justice elements to work
towards democratic and decentralized global (Internet)
governance and policy mechanisms sufficient to address
these issues.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
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mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Mike</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri',sans-serif;"> Bertrand de La Chapelle
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com">mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com</a>] <br>
> <strong>Sent:</strong> May 21, 2015 4:41 PM<br>
> <strong>To:</strong> parminder<br>
> <strong>Cc:</strong> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
Michael Gurstein; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang<br>
> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [governance] On
WSIS+10 (was Re: Why?)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Parminder,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can agree with several of the
points you make and your description of the sequence of
events is quite accurate. Some comments however and a
question/proposal in the end that is the most important
in my view.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Comments</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I personally would not have been
opposed to a full-fledged WSIS review (including
potentially a summit level), provided however that it
would have implemented additional improvement to the
participation scheme achieved ten years ago. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually, the preparatory meetings
organized by Unesco in 2013 and ITU in 2014 were
interesting experiments in terms of more participatory
processes and drafting. But it did not seem to have
impacted the minds of the New York representatives. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As you rightly point out, in the
discussions last year at the UNGA, the positions among
governments were roughly:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- on the one hand those who put the
emphasis on multi-stakeholder participation and
traditionally did not want a heads of state type of
event nor a long preparatory process (for both good and
bad reasons), who also favored a meeting in Geneva</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- on the other hand, as you said,
"the more authoritarian countries among the G 77 also
preferred it to move to New York, with much less multi
stakeholder participation than what would have happened
in Geneva, [and] wanted it to be summit level meeting"</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have not seen the position of the
G77 that you mention and confess I did not follow this
very closely. But as could be expected in pure
intergovernmental discussions (as is the case in the
UNGA) in the absence of a strong desire by all to reach
an agreement, this divergence of views was only overcome
with the sort of half-baked solution that we are now
seeing (bits and pieces of each position). </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do agree that it deprives everyone
of an opportunity to have a serious review and that was
the initial gist of my post to Michael: I do not expect
much from a mere resolution adopted in a two-day meeting
in New York with little if any involvement of
non-governmental actors in the preparation. At best it
will reconduct the IGF with little if any improvements.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Having participated for four years in
the CSTD exercise every year, I can testify that none of
the resolutions that we so painstakingly drafted in late
night sessions contained anything more than copy and
paste of the favorite sections of the various WSIS
documents. I did not expect the intergovernmental
discussions in New York about the WSIS+10 to produce
anything significant - and I unfortunately was right. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But isn't it unfair to put the blame
on civil society (or part of it) for this outcome, as
you seem to imply? After all, it did not have a say in
the process. I suppose in addition that it was itself
split on the right thing to do, which would have made it
hard to launch a structured and strong campaign. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is a bit the same as the debate on
who has weakened the IGF? Is it the western countries
that strongly refused to move towards recommendations
(in part true - although they provided 100% of its
funding)? Is it the more radical developing countries
governments who somehow progressively stopped coming as
a way to reduce its legitimacy (also true). Or is it the
throttling by UN DESA which made it hard to receive
funds, did not replace the Chair and maintained just a
skeleton of a secretariat that prevented anything more
than the organization of the annual even to be done
(very much so). </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the case of the WSIS+10, the
governments in the UNGA - not civil society - are the
ones to blame for being unable to agree on anything
coherent regarding the mere format to discuss these very
important issues. And this does not bode well for any
likelihood of progress on substance, hence the
legitimate caution by many regarding the role that the
UN can play in that regard. An unfortunate
self-reinforcing feedback loop. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We'll see what happens. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>To end on a positive and more
forward-looking note, what would be YOUR hopes for the
WSIS+10 Review meeting and resolution? What do you
think it can achieve? What could be civil society
contribution to the shaping of the agenda and
document? Suggestions welcome, as it might be a useful
thread on this list - provided we focus on what unites
rather than what divides.</strong> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best</p>
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clarification, I do not sit on the ICANN Board since the
end of 2013 (the Buenos Aires meeting) and therefore
have no association with the positions that it has taken
since then on the issues at stake here. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 2:50 PM,
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tuesday 19 May 2015 11:57
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">I am not sure I see
what you mean below by "working to
undermine and diminish the significance of
the WSIS+10"? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">What surely could
undermine the WSIS+10 process is that it
will most likely be less open to non-state
actors - and civil society in particular -
than the WSIS itself 10 years ago. Unless
things have changed, and according to the
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.apc.org/en/news/everything-you-need-know-about-wsis10-review"
target="_blank">excellent summary by APC</a>: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span
style="font-family:
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going to be "a <span style="color:
black;">two-day high-level meeting
of the General Assembly". The
document will be prepared by "</span></span></em><em><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">an
intergovernmental negotiation process,
which will include preparatory
meetings, resulting in an
intergovernmentally agreed outcome
document, for adoption at the
high-level meeting of the General
Assembly".</span></em></p>
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> <em>Bertrand<br>
> <br>
> What Michael says above relates to how we
reached the state of affair described in the
cited section</em> from APC's summary.<br>
> <br>
> I am sure you know how we reached the
situation whereby <br>
> <br>
> "</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;"><em><span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">the review is going
to be "a <span style="color: black;">two-day
high-level meeting of the General
Assembly". The document will be prepared
by "</span></span></em><em><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">an
intergovernmental negotiation process,
which will include preparatory meetings,
resulting in an intergovernmentally agreed
outcome document, for adoption at the
high-level meeting of the General
Assembly". "</span></em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>Over many months last year,
and the year before, G 77 sought a full fledged
WSIS plus 10 summit on the same style as the
original WSIS, the extended preparatory meetings
and all.... Developed countries, under the
customary US leadership, simply refused. Some m</em>ajor
NGOs that otherwise follow this process closely
were either silent or actually supporting the
developed country position in this stand off, and
to that extent opposing the position of a full
fledged WSIS summit, original WSIS style (which
would have then taken place in Geneva, with
multistakeholder participation at least at the
same level as was in the original WSIS). When this
was happening, I raised the issue a few times on
these list but got no response. It is really
strange in the circumstances to now rue that this
has happened. <br>
> <br>
> It is a fact that the more authoritarian
countries among the G 77 also preferred it to move
to New York, with much less multi stakeholder
participation than what would have happened in
Geneva, even though they wanted it to be summit
level meeting. <strong><em>However, G 77 as a
group was ready to do it fully original WSIS
style</em></strong>, with the leadership for
this position taken by the more democratic
developing countries. However, this position found
no support from civil society and tech groups
(ISOC) who otherwise were closely following the
process, and there were in fact positions
articulated that expressed some kinds of 'fear'
about a possible full-fledged summit, with these
positions largely aligning with developed country
positions. <br>
> <br>
> That is what brought us were we are. Lets not
escape the responsibility. <br>
> <br>
> Further, as I said in my earlier email, the
CEO of ICANN - an organisation on whose board both
you and Wolfgang sit - openly touted Net Mundial
Initiative as something needed to stop governments
from doing what they would in default (of NMI) do
through the WSIS and its preparatory process. With
this kind of sentiment, publicly expressed, it is
clear what ICANN and others of the dominant IG
cohort think of the WSIS process....<br>
> <br>
> Quoting Fadi on why Net Mundial is needed -
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/12/im_begging_you_to_join_netmundial_initiative_gets_desperate/?page=2"
target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/12/im_begging_you_to_join_netmundial_initiative_gets_desperate/?page=2</a><br>
> <br>
> "We need to make sure that next June
(referring to the start of WSIS prep process) we
don't have delegation after delegation going to
UNGA [the United Nations General Assembly] saying
there are no solutions to these issues.<br>
> <br>
> And then now to express regret about the
health of the WSIS process !?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">For sure, modalities
for consultation of relevant WSIS
stakeholders are supposed to be put in
place, but there is a big question mark in
that regard at the moment, isn't it?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">In that context,
maybe the motto should be: the real
WSIS+10 is the IGF 2015. Why don't we make
it so? </span></p>
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> <span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Yes, that kind of sentiment
is and was precisely the problem which led to
where we stand today. </span>But then lets not
try to have our cake and eat it too ... <br>
> <span style="color: #888888;"><br>
> parminder <br>
> <br>
> </span></p>
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style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Le
plus beau métier des
hommes, c'est d'unir
les hommes</span></em>",
Antoine de Saint Exupéry<br>
> ("<em><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">There
is no greater
mission for humans
than uniting humans</span></em>")</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 19,
2015 at 5:48 PM, Michael Gurstein <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"
target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wolfgang, I must
say that I find your statement below
exceedingly odd in<br>
> that you seem to have ignored
the manner in which a number of the
leading<br>
> "civil society" organizations
have been working alongside their
USG and UKG<br>
> (and other) allies to undermine
and diminish the significance of the
WSIS<br>
> +10 process.<br>
> <span style="color: #888888;"><br>
> M<br>
> </span><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>]
On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter,<br>
> Wolfgang"<br>
> Sent: May 19, 2015 3:01 PM<br>
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
parminder; David Cake<br>
> Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
BestBitsList;
Forum@Justnetcoalition. Org</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Subject:
[governance] Why?<br>
> <br>
> Sorry for intervening: It
is really a pitty that the
discussion on this list<br>
> is occupied by
hairsplitting, "I told you but
you do not listen" and "I am<br>
> right and you are wrong".
Why this civil society network,
which once played<br>
> an important role in policy
development in the WSIS process,
is unable to<br>
> look forward where the real
challenges are with the
forthcoming WSIS 10+<br>
> processes and concentrate
on substance and how to reach
rough consensus? Why<br>
> people do not respect
anymore what Jon Postel has told
us a quarter of a<br>
> century ago in his
robustness princple: "Be
conservative in what you send,<br>
> be liberal in what you
accept". Why they do not
remember the language of the<br>
> CS WSIS Geneva Declaration
from 2003?<br>
> <br>
> The Bali split (2013) has
obviously long shadows and old
warriors have<br>
> overtaken the discussion.<br>
> <br>
> My hope is that the WSIS
10++ perspective will encourage
a new generation of<br>
> younger civil society
people who feel more committed
to the substance of<br>
> real civil society
activities and do not waste the
limited resources and<br>
> energies for infighting.
And do not forget: The WGIG
proposal for a<br>
> multistakeholder approach
in Internet Governance (2005)
was a compromise<br>
> between "governmental
leadership" (China) and private
sector leadership<br>
> (USA)and it opened the door
for civil society to become an
inclusive part of<br>
> the process. This was a
boig achievement of that time
and an opportunity. It<br>
> is now up to the next
generation of civil society
activists to build on this<br>
> oppportunity. It would be a
big shame if this would be
destroyed.<br>
> <br>
> Wolfgang</p>
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