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<p>I partly agree with your views but the concluding question you raise lets me confused or,in plain french, sidéré :</p>
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<p><i<font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">n that context, maybe the motto should be: the real WSIS+10 is the IGF 2015. Why don't we make it so? ><br /></font></p>
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<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thus, in your opinion the WEF/IGF is given the capacity to address anthroplogic, cultural, social, societal, ethical and minorities' issues that are in the center of any "information society" ? </font></p>
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<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">This opinion explains much better as any long discurse the "shift" of some "CS" groups in the WSIS process that Wolfgang is questioning (I think he has forgotten some of our "lively" debates in CS plenaries when Bill (Mc Iver) then Sally (Burch) chaired them).</font></p>
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<p><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Jean-Louis Fullsack<br /></font></p>
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<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #ff0000 2px solid;">> Message du 19/05/15 20:28<br />> De : "Bertrand de La Chapelle" <bdelachapelle@gmail.com><br />> A : "governance@lists.igcaucus.org" <governance@lists.igcaucus.org>, "Michael Gurstein" <gurstein@gmail.com><br />> Copie à : "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de><br />> Objet : [governance] On WSIS+10 (was Re: Why?)<br />> <br />>
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<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I am not sure I see what you mean below by "working to undermine and diminish the significance of the WSIS+10"? </font></div>
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<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">What surely could undermine the WSIS+10 process is that it will most likely be less open to non-state actors - and civil society in particular - than the WSIS itself 10 years ago. Unless things have changed, and according to the <a href="https://www.apc.org/en/news/everything-you-need-know-about-wsis10-review">excellent summary by APC</a>: </font></div>
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<div><em><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">the review is going to be</span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> "a <span style="color: #000000; line-height: 18.5919990539551px;">two-day high-level meeting of the General Assembly". The document will be prepared by "</span></font><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13.2799997329712px; line-height: 18.5919990539551px;">an intergovernmental negotiation process, which will include preparatory meetings, resulting in an intergovernmentally agreed outcome document, for adoption at the high-level meeting of the General Assembly".</span></em></div>
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<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">For sure, modalities for consultation of relevant WSIS stakeholders are supposed to be put in place, but there is a big question mark in that regard at the moment, isn't it?</font></div>
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<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">In that context, maybe the motto should be: the real WSIS+10 is the IGF 2015. Why don't we make it so? </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Michael Gurstein <span><<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Wolfgang, I must say that I find your statement below exceedingly odd in<br />> that you seem to have ignored the manner in which a number of the leading<br />> "civil society" organizations have been working alongside their USG and UKG<br />> (and other) allies to undermine and diminish the significance of the WSIS<br />> +10 process.<br />> <span><font color="#888888"><br />> M<br />> </font></span><span class="im"><br />> -----Original Message-----<br />> From: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br />> [mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter,<br />> Wolfgang"<br />> Sent: May 19, 2015 3:01 PM<br />> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; parminder; David Cake<br />> Cc: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; BestBitsList; Forum@Justnetcoalition. Org<br />> </span>
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<div class="h5">Subject: [governance] Why?<br />> <br />> Sorry for intervening: It is really a pitty that the discussion on this list<br />> is occupied by hairsplitting, "I told you but you do not listen" and "I am<br />> right and you are wrong". Why this civil society network, which once played<br />> an important role in policy development in the WSIS process, is unable to<br />> look forward where the real challenges are with the forthcoming WSIS 10+<br />> processes and concentrate on substance and how to reach rough consensus? Why<br />> people do not respect anymore what Jon Postel has told us a quarter of a<br />> century ago in his robustness princple: "Be conservative in what you send,<br />> be liberal in what you accept". Why they do not remember the language of the<br />> CS WSIS Geneva Declaration from 2003?<br />> <br />> The Bali split (2013) has obviously long shadows and old warriors have<br />> overtaken the discussion.<br />> <br />> My hope is that the WSIS 10++ perspective will encourage a new generation of<br />> younger civil society people who feel more committed to the substance of<br />> real civil society activities and do not waste the limited resources and<br />> energies for infighting. And do not forget: The WGIG proposal for a<br />> multistakeholder approach in Internet Governance (2005) was a compromise<br />> between "governmental leadership" (China) and private sector leadership<br />> (USA)and it opened the door for civil society to become an inclusive part of<br />> the process. This was a boig achievement of that time and an opportunity. It<br />> is now up to the next generation of civil society activists to build on this<br />> oppportunity. It would be a big shame if this would be destroyed.<br />> <br />> Wolfgang<br />> <br />></div>
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